ICC World Twenty20, 2009 - Group B

I'd PMSL at the Clogs beating England except that we'll probably get snotted by Crystal's boys tonight.

Looks a pretty damn good effort (based on the scorecard). 160 seems to have become a middling type score that is a challenge in this form of the game.

Well done to the lads in orange.

So how many cheeseheads will get IPL contracts?

PMSL...perhaps there is something to this 2020 bullshit afterall

Well done the Cloggies. Deserved it because they wanted it.

I reckon England rocked up thinking it was a stroll in the park - their batting in their final 5 overs proved it ... got to around the 140 ish mark ... no way the Cloggies would get that ... ease off the pedal ... job done.

Wrong - f**king wrong. Worst fielding I've seen from them in a circus game - normally one of their strong cards ... what was it 4 missed run outs?! That would've been game over ...

Oh well ... don't look like the host nation's going to reach the next stage.

Qunts.

hullo, what's all this? Not like it was real farkin cricket . . . why all the long faces?

Touche mon kapitan ...

My misery lies in the fact that I have received copious amounts of texts and phone calls from my many Cloggie mates ... all taking the piss.

I imagine it probably feels somewhat like what you guys went through when the Bangles kicked Auz arse in an ODI some years ago ... but I guess not having that many Bangle mates, it didn't rankle you Aussiesas much as it does here and now with those buggering Clogs rubbing it in !!

All good fun though!

Actually the batting wasn't all that bad in the first 10 overs and I thought a score of 160 would be pretty defendable. But I wasn't counting on the mediocrity of Rashid. Absolutely useless and he hasn't learnt from watching. Needs to flight the ball as a spinner. Swann should return for the Pakistan match.

Broad lost it in his last two overs too. The lad wasn't even trying to take wickets, bowling a mile and a half outside the off stump. I wish Ashoka D'Silva had called an early wide. Might have stopped the negative approach. He did once though and then stopped in his tracks. Shat in his pants thinking of crowd hostility, I guess. Nah, Collingwood is no replacement for KP. Not that he was any better.

Would be a pity if the host country dropped out at this preliminary stage. But it looks highly probable. The Paksters can easily match the host's fielding, though, making it an even contest.

jim rich wrote:
Broad lost it in his last two overs too. The lad wasn't even trying to take wickets, bowling a mile and a half outside the off stump. I wish Ashoka D'Silva had called an early wide. Might have stopped the negative approach. He did once though and then stopped in his tracks. Shat in his pants thinking of crowd hostility, I guess.

Or simply thought like he did in the previous game, that t'aint working time for plan B...

England were complacent. They didn't even pick their strongest side. Would KP and Swann's injuries have kept them out of the first ashes test? Doubt it. Usually, a T20 game v the Netherlands would be a good excuse to rest as many players as possible, but FFS, this is a WORLD CUP here, and England are the host nation. England haven't grasped that. They really didn't give a toss. Wicket celebrations were lacklustre, the fielding was lazy, and the rest of the world laughed out loud when suddenly England realised that they had actually lost the match. Shambles.

Henry wrote:England were complacent. They didn't even pick their strongest side. Would KP and Swann's injuries have kept them out of the first ashes test? Doubt it. Usually, a T20 game v the Netherlands would be a good excuse to rest as many players as possible, but FFS, this is a WORLD CUP here, and England are the host nation. England haven't grasped that. They really didn't give a toss. Wicket celebrations were lacklustre, the fielding was lazy, and the rest of the world laughed out loud when suddenly England realised that they had actually lost the match. Shambles.

A 20/20 World Cup.

I'd rather KP, Swann, Fred etc. all rested for this tournament rather than risk injury just before an Ashes series. And I would imagine all Aussies would feel the same if there were fitness questions over any of their star players.

It's our home tournament, it's up to the host nation to put up a good showing on and off the field. Let's face it, we're very unlikely to win the Ashes, and anyway these players have already achieved that but never won any sort of tournament on the world stage.

beamer wrote:It's our home tournament, it's up to the host nation to put up a good showing on and off the field. Let's face it, we're very unlikely to win the Ashes, and anyway these players have already achieved that but never won any sort of tournament on the world stage.

Aye, our limited overs cricket since 1992 in tournaments has been pathetic. I dont think we should have risked KP though if he was seriously struggling. What we had was good enough to beat Holland, they just played like a drain. And the make up of the team was poor... Key at 6? He should have opened despite Wrights knock.

Anyway roll on Sunday, one way or t'other at least the players haven't got long to stew over it.

Decent piece by Andrew Miller - hadn't heard Collys comments but they're pretty damning of our attitude as a whole...
http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/407652.html

First of all, who was the sex bomb they were showing before the match when it was raining?

Netherlands did it well, but come on, it's not that hard to hit the stumps.

doremi wrote:First of all, who was the sex bomb they were showing before the match when it was raining?

Alesha Dixon

JKLever wrote:Decent piece by Andrew Miller - hadn't heard Collys comments but they're pretty damning of our attitude as a whole...
http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/407652.html

Yeah great piece of writing, it makes you sick really doesn't it.

Merlin wrote: Touche mon kapitan ...

My misery lies in the fact that I have received copious amounts of texts and phone calls from my many Cloggie mates ... all taking the piss.

I imagine it probably feels somewhat like what you guys went through when the Bangles kicked Auz arse in an ODI some years ago ... but I guess not having that many Bangle mates, it didn't rankle you Aussiesas much as it does here and now with those buggering Clogs rubbing it in !!

All good fun though!

I blame the Middlesex middle disorder. What was that?

Strauss should fine them 20k each.

Afterthoughts:

Magnificent devil-may-care effort by the Goudas.

Risky policy to stick Rashid in as lone spinner at this stage in his international career. And was found out. Too happy-clubbable, by an underdog team prepared to give it a go and baseball it for all they were worth.

A nervous Shah AND a new unproven Morgan were an odd double choice after the decent start. Wasted three overs (11>14) and all the momentum to scrape a totial of only 10 runs between them. As I said at the time, what happened to Key? He looked good (a real batsman) in the few balls he got. Would have been the way to go at 3, if not an opener.

Colly didn't want the captaincy last time. A bit of aversion therapy yesterday.

Broad obviously got too excited at the death. Despite bowling pretty smartly. Must be something like a world record, to miss three runouts and a catch in one over? .... I hope he doesn't let it get to him. Talking therapy might be needed there ...

Otherwise, the only "moral" I'd draw with a view to the Ashes: I'm a bit worried about Sid's temperament. When roused, he seems to get angry rather than crafty or accurate. Bring back the cooler Hoggy for the Ashes? ...

I blame Windies for not trying at any point during the warm up match the other day and the ODI's and therefore lulling England into an illusion of grandeur.

England are a pretty poor 20-20 team full stop.

No Sh!t Sherlock! I don't think a T20 warm-up win against a team who have been well beaten all tour was lulling anyone however!!

I have always thought England are a team that can under-estimate the opposition very easily.

I know you deny it but they did not do their homework on the form of JT and Edwards before the Sabina Park test and payed the price.

Now they disrespected the opposition with their team selection after a month or so of beating a completely demotivated and fed up West Indies team that was showing about 50% commitment to the cause.

I'm not saying guys like you think that, I am saying that is how the team management operates.

We obviously did under-estimate the opposition - we didn't bother playing from overs 11-30 (of the match) because we thought the job was done.

One riveting tit-bit from Collingwood is that Graeme Swann was DROPPED:

"We were taking a bit of a gamble with Adil today," said Collingwood. "He's not played a lot but we thought that exposure would do him the world of good. Graeme Swann, he knows what he's all about with his offspin and the experience he brings, but a legspinner in Twenty20 cricket is certainly a wicket-taker. I guess we took a bit of a punt on Adil, he bowled exceptionally the other night, and he's certainly a player for the future. Why not put him into a game like this?"

Well done Coach, well done Captain. Graeme Swann has been in terrible form and hasn't taken many wickets. He doesn't have much Twenty20 experience whereas Adil does, so very well done.

World Twenty 20, the unpredictable championship!

WIFAN wrote:I have always thought England are a team that can under-estimate the opposition very easily.

I'm not saying guys like you think that, I am saying that is how the team management operates.

Gotcha. Oh, you meant the team - absolutely! Agree with you, thought you meant fans. You've forummed with us long enough to know we expect the unexpected at any turn...