Re: The UK General Election Thread (II)

[JKLever]

[Allan D]

I would have thought that the Tories would have ditched this as part of the price for the coalition - we can but hope anyway.

They're committed to a free vote on repeal of the Act.

[JKLever]

This is genuine...

[Allan D]

Yes, Bob Crow and his comrades may not be able to hold TFL and the commuters to ransom any longer.

[Merlin]

I would have thought that the Tories would have ditched this as part of the price for the coalition - we can but hope anyway.

Why?

[Allan D]

Thought it would be one thing turkeys definitely would vote for!

[Basil]

I would have thought that the Tories would have ditched this as part of the price for the coalition - we can but hope anyway.

Why?

Tories pandering to the hang it, shoot it, hunt it fraternity.

[Growler]

They're a significant minority Bas ........ I thought you Liberals were on the side of the minority.

[eowyn]

Foxes need to be keep undercontrol but chacing after them on horse back with a pack of hounds never did that. The hunts can follow trails and have just as much enjoyment riding without ripping an animal to shreds at the end. Only bloody thirsty, sad tossers still believe fox hunting keeps the fox population down these days.

[Merlin]

I would have thought that the Tories would have ditched this as part of the price for the coalition - we can but hope anyway.

Why?

Tories pandering to the hang it, shoot it, hunt it fraternity.

PMSL
Fox, like mink, muntjak are vermin Baz. The entire population of the rural parts of the UK wants/needs fox hunting back in order to sustain the countryside ... to keep it alive with people in work, farriers, stable hands, dog kennels and handlers and all the attached periferal trade ... whilst a few townies with memories of dear old Basil Brush embedded in their selective brains, consider fox hunting abhorrant! So
Fox's are still shot - cubs and all - and like most country dwellers around here, the local farmers invite us to clear his fields as the crops are harvested. I don't ride with the hounds but I do shoot the buggers - whilst I also know 6 guys in the local pub who've lost their jobs on estates because of the ban - and this happens to be a small community!

It's got sod all to do with the Tories Baz ... more to do with ignorant NuLab townies appeasing townie voters with yet another "Thou Shall Not" Bill passed to appease the minority beardo-wierdos !

I've got a idea though - let's cull all the townie dogs that foul the streets and parks thus making it unsafe for the kids .... bet that would go down like a lead balloon !

[Allan D]

There are now more urban foxes as the urban environment provides a greater source of food than the increasingly pesticided and toxified countryside. The only time I have ever seen a fox has been outside my door here in North London. Maybe we could set up the Haringey Hunt and get the men in redcoats trotting down Upper Street with their pack of hounds in full pursuit of the uneatable. If they can't find any foxes they might make do with the occasional "yoof" or asbo merchant that they could run to ground in their lairs of the sink estates. In that way they could combine recreation with a valuable social service as well as providing colour and spectacle to the local community.

[Merlin]

The Haringey Hunt .... hmmm ... has a nice ring to it!

[Yorkie Jill]

Can we ban people who feed urban foxes cat food and make them feel at home in towns? farking RIDICULOUS numbers in Kent and the south east, where there is PLENTY of countryside for them.

Unless they are being edged out of the countryside because, hang on...there's no way of keeping on top of the numbers without hunting and shooting.

ffs, I wish bills banning feral kids, dogs, chavs etc were passed through as damn quickly by parliament as those for NOT killing a few head of vermin a year.

where do you draw the line at what it's acceptable to kill and how?

[beamer]

Boris Johnson has likened the new government to "a cross between a bulldog and a Chihuahua"... at least he didn't say a bulldog and a shih-tzu

[Merlin]

.. where do you draw the line at what it's acceptable to kill ..... and how?

The 5th Armoured Division and all the other ground troops in Afganistan.
Providing them with inadequate protective transport and clothing.

The Blair "Basil Brush" policy ...
Priorities ...... funny, innit!

[eowyn]

The hunts only ever caught the foxes that were slow cecause they were ill or injured. Foxes cause damage, they need to be controlled but hunting them never kept them at bay, trapping them and shooting them did. Just go riding to hunt following a trail, over land where you are welcome. How are you going to control urban foxes riding to hound???????????????????


F8cking hell, bring back hanging and drawing and quartering, why don't you? Duck witches and pray to the almighty for the forgiveness of your sins.

Have we gone back to the Eighties, loadsamoney, red braces and me, me,me already? There are no more mining villages for you tories to destroy, what are you going to destroy instead? Cardiff, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester?

I'm hoping the Liberals will make sure we don't to far down the right wing path. I've never met a tory who didn't put what made themselves better off first yet.

[Allan D]

O dear, I see the class warriors are out in force tonight. They don't like it, Cap'n Mainwaring, they don't like it up 'em!

[eowyn]

Allen, I didn't vote Labour but I work in animal welfare and I live where there are devistated pit villages. How has your life ever been devistated by politics?

[eowyn]

O dear, I see the class warriors are out in force tonight. They don't like it, Cap'n Mainwaring, they don't like it up 'em!

Corporal Jones was a inept dick head.

[Merlin]

Ange -

Hasn't the past 13 years under Nulabour all been about me, me, and me?
Blair owns a country estate, a London townhouse, gets £100k a pop for a speech and costs the taxpayer £1 mill per year for his "protection" ... Prescotts sons own a half dozen streets - yes streets in Hull ... Mandleson made a peer (good socialist that he is) ... the list is endless! me, me and more for me!
And it's not just the Tories ....

We live in a litigious society where a lesbian soldier commands a settlement of £500,000 for alleged harrassment, whilst a soldier returning from Afganistan without his legs and one arm is offered £75,000 ... me, me and more for me!

A broker on the London SE and/or a banker getting obscene millions for being allowed to run amok and throw the country into financial chaos ... me, me and more for me!

And on whose watch has all this taken place ? Why, Labour of course!
No surprise there! Thirteen years of sustained greed in the name of Socialism ... but now, the Tories (and Libbos) have to clear up the mess - yet again! Is it any wonder NuLabour were trounced at the polls last week?

So you see Ange, it isn't just the Tories .... it's the Socialists (in disguise) that have driven greed into every conceivable corner of this country ... the Tories haven't been in power since the charismatic ladies-choice Tony Blair took office .... heralding a new dawn .... remember?! I'd say it all went pear shaped, wouldn't you?

Finally - Mining villages - with China mining five times the amount of coal Britain could at 20 percent of the cost and then shipping it across the globe on their cheap bulk carrying vessels, how long do you think the UK could survive pouring loadsamoney into the mines to sustain their slow death - and who would we expport our expensive coal to?

Hanging (but not drawing and quartering) - why not?

[eowyn]

Thatcher started all this, everyone else jumped on her band wagon.

I hate the world and I want to get off and take my girls with me, I'd live on a deserted island or a different planet it I could.

[Yorkie Jill]

living in a city or suburb, not affected much by politics that I notice. I pay tax, the fire service/police/ambos are all pretty near, my rubbish gets collected, the roads don't really get improved.

living in the countryside? no local post office, no buses to local towns, no high speed broadband, no railway (thanks Dr. Beeching), yuppies coming in and buying property, ageing population, hunt kennels that deal with carcasses of sheep/cows/horses under threat, pubs and village shops losing business. if that's what the Conservatives and Lib Dems will improve, then that's what I want. Selfish? yeah, why not? If someone votes Labour or UKIP because that's what they want, and that's what they think will best represent them, why not? Or is that naive, and leading to more 'where do you draw the line' stuff?

I know it's different for my generation who were kids in the late 80s, so I'm happy to wait and see what happens before 'bloody tory-ing' this and that. If Thatcher was so awful, why on earth was she PM for so long?? Who voted for her after the miner's strikes (genuinely interested in people's views on this, I don't know much about it.)

Ange - I guess the RSPCA have to deal with the urban foxes, if people call them in about them. Otherwise, not many ways of finding them except trapping and humane euthanasia/releasing into the 'wild'.

[lardbucket]

The hunts only ever caught the foxes that were slow cecause they were ill or injured. Foxes cause damage, they need to be controlled but hunting them never kept them at bay, trapping them and shooting them did. Just go riding to hunt following a trail, over land where you are welcome. How are you going to control urban foxes riding to hound???????????????????


F8cking hell, bring back hanging and drawing and quartering, why don't you? Duck witches and pray to the almighty for the forgiveness of your sins.

Have we gone back to the Eighties, loadsamoney, red braces and me, me,me already? There are no more mining villages for you tories to destroy, what are you going to destroy instead? Cardiff, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester?

I'm hoping the Liberals will make sure we don't to far down the right wing path. I've never met a tory who didn't put what made themselves better off first yet.

What's a duck witch? Agarkar?

[Merlin]

Thatcher started all this, everyone else jumped on her band wagon.

I hate the world and I want to get off and take my girls with me, I'd live on a deserted island or a different planet it I could.

Hmmmm .. Maggie was 20 years ago Ange ... we've moved on since - as Our Tone always banged on about !
But I know what you mean ... I've heard Fiji or one of the many Pacific islands is the ideal place to step out of the rat race - only problem being that you'd be perilously close to a large island down in those parts ... you know the one that has people speaking with a nasally twang and whose dream is to one day, in the distant future, win back a small urn .....

[lardbucket]

Ange, don't bite. There are triumphalists on both sides of politics ... these folk are extremely unattractive when they win (a bit like sport really). The world will not end because the Tories won.

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