Trott quits the tour!

Big Dog wrote:

Basil wrote:

JGK wrote:It's hard to see any England tailender getting a driveable delivery for the rest of the summer.

Ditto Warner

At the pace the Englanders are bowling, i don't think that will be a problem.

Aye. Warner hooked his first ball of the series for four didn't he?

did warner call trott something besides just weak? what a kerfuffle. that's about the tamest it gets

the protestations from the english are hilariously hypocritical. reminds me of the sarwan-mcgrath incident in some ways

The One wrote:did warner call trott something besides just weak? what a kerfuffle. that's about the tamest it gets

the protestations from the english are hilariously hypocritical. reminds me of the sarwan-mcgrath incident in some ways

Highly ironic coming from an Indian.

skully wrote:

G.Wood wrote:The english "our boys can do no wrong" is pretty funny.  They could almost be Sri Lankan

It's fantastic to have Merls back in full form.  

You've got it wrong there guys.
I don't and have never denied that Jimmy is a prime protagonist on-field - what I do question is your sources.

It seems the gob-shite Watne is upto his old tricks again, when he said "he'd heard it all" off the stump mike when commenting for Ch 9.
The attention whore just can't step back from shoving his snort into the melee . . .
I still blame Boof.
 

the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

The One wrote:did warner call trott something besides just weak? what a kerfuffle. that's about the tamest it gets

the protestations from the english are hilariously hypocritical. reminds me of the sarwan-mcgrath incident in some ways

Henry wrote:

The One wrote:did warner call trott something besides just weak? what a kerfuffle. that's about the tamest it gets

the protestations from the english are hilariously hypocritical. reminds me of the sarwan-mcgrath incident in some ways

Highly ironic coming from an Indian.

I'm getting all teary and nostalgic. This reminds me of the halcyon days of Flaming Bails.  

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

Or refusing to play a couple of tests in South Africa because they didn't like the bloke in charge of CSA?

JGK wrote:

Or Rod Marsh welcoming Ian Botham to bat with the good natured inquiry, "How’s your wife and my kids?"

Wasn't Beefy's response:

"Wife is good, the kids are ugly. "

I thought the response was - "The wife's good but your kids are retarded"

That's the problem with these put downs . . .they meld over the years and you just don't know which one was actually uttered at the time!

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

I notice you let the poisoned dwarf retire before commenting on the "current" BanIndian crop!

Gods - my arse.
They were mere mortals who got sucked up into godlike effigies by an ignorant public who just wanted to add more gods to the hundreds already in existance.

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

memory leaving you in old age? no one tampered with the ball

5 indians were fined for over-appealing. and the god-fearing saffies were given a hug and a kiss

Henry wrote:

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

Or refusing to play a couple of tests in South Africa because they didn't like the bloke in charge of CSA?

You think Trott was terrified, you should have seen the look in Tendulkar's eyes.

"That's the problem with these put downs . . .they meld over the years and you just don't know which one was actually uttered at the time"!

And furthermore, after you've heard them for the 12675th time you no longer even GAF....

The One wrote:

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

memory leaving you in old age? no one tampered with the ball

5 indians were fined for over-appealing. and the god-fearing saffies were given a hug and a kiss

Ahem. http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/496743.html

No need for an apology

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:

taipan wrote:

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

That wold be the same gods who refused to play a test in SA as some of them had been convicted of ball tampering?

memory leaving you in old age? no one tampered with the ball

5 indians were fined for over-appealing. and the god-fearing saffies were given a hug and a kiss

Ahem. http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/496743.html

No need for an apology

And speaking of WGAF....

The One wrote:the current indian team is full of foul-mouths and they don't complain either way

the ones from an earlier era were gods amongst men. can't blame them for feeling dirty with some of the scum that was around in international cricket

May I quote you in the name of truth?  

It's gratifying to put the scummy saffers in their place though. Once again they've begun howling beggary for a series against us.

Ooh, all a bit gripey here... I'm with skully - misted up with nostalgia.

Trott wants to globe trot no more.....

Thoughtful new cricinfo article by Martin Crowe, this time on Trott and the masquerade element of the Ashes - particularly discussing possible reasons for recent high-profile theatrical performances with the mouth and face.

Includes some stinging remarks, even, briefly, for Michael Clarke (!).

Is Crowe turning into a second Brearley?  

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/693959.html


But thought-provoking as the read is, and useful as an attempt to simmer down an overwrought/overblown situation on various sides, I think the problem is that his diagnosis raises further questions, while settling few arguments.

For example:

1) Is "the mask" as he identifies it actually a hard concept, or very fluid, relativistic?

2) Isn't "the mask" as he uses it not just another word for "(exaggerated) show of confidence"?

3) Would it be possible for more than a small handful of people ever to play Test cricket without this "mask", of the sort he describes? Wouldn't the vast majority of players just want to be "normal people", and play local and regional cricket for sport?

4) the biggest "however" (though Crowe is here at most responsible for poking it with a stick of reason): in fact, don't most cricket supporters, patriots, personal inadequates and - more cynically, the media hacks who grind these wheels for cash - actually prefer the gladiatorial virility-show bullshit, and to restoke the smouldering prejudices (of myth and ignorance, rather than history) once again against their much-needed opponents?

Or perhaps I misread the article.

Where does he mention anything about a mask?