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English Domestic Season 2015
by Basil Sun 22 Mar 2015, 17:59
I swear the start gets earlier every year.
MCC V Yorkshire: MCC 221 all out; Yorkshire 82/2. Runs for Hildreth and Mitchell, fark all for anyone else including Chef!
MCC V Yorkshire: MCC 221 all out; Yorkshire 82/2. Runs for Hildreth and Mitchell, fark all for anyone else including Chef!
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by beamer Sun 22 Mar 2015, 19:55
Well, it is Abu Dhabi as opposed to Derby these days, so they can start somewhat earlier... presumably the first matches on English soil are still the average-boosting contests with the University Centres of Cricketing Crapulence or whatever they're called these days?
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by PeterCS Tue 24 Mar 2015, 11:23
Q for MONKEHH:
Jack Brooks - has he got any international credentials? (You've probably already posted yea or nay a hundred times, but I didn't see, or I can't recall.)
I am not watching the Screaming Abdabs match, but it seems again he is getting decent results. I don't think he's noted for any real sort of pace, but he is with a winning county, and has the guidance and advice of an ex-bowler who is probably as good as anyone could get, to bring the best out of him.
The answer of course depends in part on what alternatives are on offer. But with England's "leading" seam bowlers falling asunder like so many pieces of punk wood, I suppose Brooks must be an outside chance?
Jack Brooks - has he got any international credentials? (You've probably already posted yea or nay a hundred times, but I didn't see, or I can't recall.)
I am not watching the Screaming Abdabs match, but it seems again he is getting decent results. I don't think he's noted for any real sort of pace, but he is with a winning county, and has the guidance and advice of an ex-bowler who is probably as good as anyone could get, to bring the best out of him.
The answer of course depends in part on what alternatives are on offer. But with England's "leading" seam bowlers falling asunder like so many pieces of punk wood, I suppose Brooks must be an outside chance?
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by PeterCS Tue 24 Mar 2015, 11:54
Meanwhile, Chef out for 3 and 5. (And the second innings should have been 2, it seems.) While showing no signs at all along the short way to those pitiful scores.
- DIGRESSION ON COOK & Others:
- Failing England players - skippers in particular - constantly scrutinised in an era of the all-seeing-media-eye, and an endless proliferation of added comments from forums/websites/social media, have tended to grumble and groan about a lack of moral support, a readiness of followers to be negative, not to say acidly abusive.
I mean, these captains, Nasser onwards (or did it start before him?) do have a point. As a nation, we don't drink enough water, or consume enough dietary fibre.
And if any supporter really does expect England have a right to be at the top - mind you, this is a claim generally exaggerated in Australia as one of the many national diseases of the English - then there is a indeed problem of depressed or delusional personal self-esteem in that person. And a grand putting of the cart before the horse.
But any England captain should understand the "30 (, 40, 50) years of pain": the recurrent shortcomings & failures that engender either a wry black humour - a bolster against dismay - or the various hue and cry responses, fists shaking, and relentless demands for heads to roll every couple of months, weeks, days.
Most of all, they should understand it's the sheer bloody repetition of failure, the failure to learn and apply themselves to effective remedies, and - perhaps worst of all - the denial of failure with bucketfuls of anodyne whitewashing and "taking (non-existent) positives", that leads to the loudest of all the howling.
Any batsman can fail, and fail two, three, four times. But when it becomes a habit, and a denied habit, a sort of normal despair, a nervous condition considered entirely natural, that the rot has really started to set in with the player and supporters alike.
In other words: wake up, cop on and pull yer farqin socks up, Alastair Cook. (And a number of others.)
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:50
PeterCS wrote:Q for MONKEHH:
Jack Brooks - has he got any international credentials? (You've probably already posted yea or nay a hundred times, but I didn't see, or I can't recall.)
I am not watching the Screaming Abdabs match, but it seems again he is getting decent results. I don't think he's noted for any real sort of pace, but he is with a winning county, and has the guidance and advice of an ex-bowler who is probably as good as anyone could get, to bring the best out of him.
The answer of course depends in part on what alternatives are on offer. But with England's "leading" seam bowlers falling asunder like so many pieces of punk wood, I suppose Brooks must be an outside chance?
Very nearly 31... got cockslapped on the Lions tour... Haircut 300 still
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by PeterCS Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:53
Jeez, didn't realise he was getting on that much. Must have been the low profile at the Cainty Graind.
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by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:55
PeterCS wrote:Meanwhile, Chef out for 3 and 5. (And the second innings should have been 2, it seems.) While showing no signs at all along the short way to those pitiful scores.
At least we have his extraordinary man management skills and his exceptional tactical genius on the field. His family is a thing of wonder and he's the man to lead us from this massive sinkhole that he dragged us into, through no fault of his own.
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by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:56
PeterCS wrote:Jeez, didn't realise he was getting on that much. Must have been the low profile at the Cainty Graind.
Yeah, dunno when we picked him up and polished him for one of the rich counties to steal him from us... 2008? He'd have been about 24-25. He'd been languishing in the minor counties until then.
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by lardbucket Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:58
Didn't Ang also think that he has nice eyes, or hair, or something? I'm looking for the positives. He's not Australian or Indian, maybe that's it.
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by PeterCS Tue 24 Mar 2015, 16:45
Brass Monkey wrote:PeterCS wrote:Jeez, didn't realise he was getting on that much. Must have been the low profile at the Cainty Graind.
Yeah, dunno when we picked him up and polished him for one of the rich counties to steal him from us... 2008? He'd have been about 24-25. He'd been languishing in the minor counties until then.
No slight intended in the Northants comment. Just life in Div 2, and with a county that has rarely attracted glory attention throughout its history. Jupp, Tyson, Subba Row, Milburn, D Steele were some exceptions, that broke through that barrier, even then quite briefly.
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by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Mar 2015, 17:42
None taken, I was just saying that man likelihood is we'll have to keep scouring the 'talent pool', polishing up rough players then watch as they're cherry picked by counties who can give them a better pay packet.
The thing with Brooks has always been that he's always tried to bowl as fast as he can... Ok it's only been late 80's to 90 at full tilt but he can never be accused of bowling within himself and he was integral to Yorkshire's title victory. Fair play. Can't complain about people like that.
The thing with Brooks has always been that he's always tried to bowl as fast as he can... Ok it's only been late 80's to 90 at full tilt but he can never be accused of bowling within himself and he was integral to Yorkshire's title victory. Fair play. Can't complain about people like that.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by brockley Wed 25 Mar 2015, 02:44
I am going 2 laya bet on warwickshire this year,yorkshire missing too many players this season.(internationals).
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by lardbucket Tue 31 Mar 2015, 12:22
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Counties (Middlesex, Lancashire, Gloucestershire) have to change their plans with the selection of Voges and Siddle in the Ashes squad; and Handscomb in the Australia A squad.
Counties (Middlesex, Lancashire, Gloucestershire) have to change their plans with the selection of Voges and Siddle in the Ashes squad; and Handscomb in the Australia A squad.
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by Guest Tue 31 Mar 2015, 13:02
Seeing that KP has joined a Div 2 side, even if he is scoring runs at an average of 70, will he have a chance at getting picked?
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by G.Wood Wed 01 Apr 2015, 00:18
The Birmhingham Bears have done some grouse business and signed up Brendan McCullum. Only problem is he is only available for 7 group games.
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by lardbucket Wed 01 Apr 2015, 04:33
PeterCS wrote:You calling our Ang a xenophobe?!
No, I think she feels the same about all places beyond Yorkshire's borders.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by tricycle Wed 01 Apr 2015, 16:49
Pujara signs for Yorkshire and isn't in the IPL either. Can only be good, especially playing the early months.
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by LeFromage Wed 01 Apr 2015, 18:29
Pujara sucks ass in English conditions. Flat Indian Track Bully. FITB.
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by tricycle Wed 01 Apr 2015, 18:37
Well, hopefully it's a good arse he gets to suck.
He's nowhere near VVS' class, but Laxman was poor in England in tests too. Not too bad for Lancashire.
He's nowhere near VVS' class, but Laxman was poor in England in tests too. Not too bad for Lancashire.
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by Henry Wed 01 Apr 2015, 22:25
Pujara comes across as the type of guy who will learn from previous mistakes and make an effort to get better.
Did he turn down the IPL? Or did the IPL turn him down? It's hard to believe that an Indian national player wouldn't be able to get an IPL contract somewhere if he really wanted it.
Did he turn down the IPL? Or did the IPL turn him down? It's hard to believe that an Indian national player wouldn't be able to get an IPL contract somewhere if he really wanted it.
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by tricycle Thu 02 Apr 2015, 02:22
IPL turned him down, surprisingly.
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by Henry Thu 02 Apr 2015, 12:37
Very strange,but probably he best thing for him.let's hope this county stint leads to him becoming a much better test plYer and sets a precedent for a few other overpaid and under-performing Indian batsmen (shikhar and Rohit, we are all looking at you)
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Re: English Domestic Season 2015
by PeterCS Fri 03 Apr 2015, 00:58
Trivia question:
Carbs, Vince and Duckett. What's the connection?
Carbs, Vince and Duckett. What's the connection?
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