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Post by Red Thu 10 May 2018, 09:50

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-australia-review-likened-to-banking-royal-commission-20180510-p4zeip.html

Think Flaming Bailers knew this some time ago.
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Post by JGK Mon 29 Oct 2018, 04:34

Here is it:

https://www.cricketaustralia.com.au/media/media-releases/cricket-australia-releases-player-and-independent-organisational-reviews/2018-10-29


Of course those qunts at CA show their true colours:

RECOMMENDATION #17

Members of Australian Test and One Day teams be excused from playing International T20 cricket to the extent necessary for them to play Sheffield Shield and Grade cricket as per recommendation 16 (above). [that is, to play 2 Shield and 1 Grade match per season]

CURRENT STATUS

This recommendation assumes that International T20 competition is of lesser importance.

CA remains committed to the primacy of international cricket – in all three forms – and notes the increasing importance of T20 Internationals with a T20 World Cup every two years.

There are also broadcast and sponsor obligations that prevent this recommendation.

CA RESPONSE

This recommendation is not accepted.

CA will continue to select the best available team for International Cricket taking into account CA’s selection policy and the Players’ Pact, including T20 Internationals.

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Post by horace Mon 29 Oct 2018, 05:41

CA is despicable trash. After 17 Years asleep at the wheel, Sutherland claims Babel as his big success. Babel has proved a disaster for the Shield and development of younger players.
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Post by JGK Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:13

horace wrote:CA is despicable trash. After 17 Years asleep at the wheel, Sutherland claims Babel as his big success. Babel has proved a disaster for the Shield and development of younger players.


JS also appointed Howard who has been shredded in the report.

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Post by JGK Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:15

*Apparently only 24% of players completed the survey aspect of the review.

Probably because they were all shit scared to say what they really think.

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Post by Big Dog Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:25

JGK wrote:*Apparently only 24% of players completed the survey aspect of the review.

Probably because they were all shit scared to say what they really think.

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Post by Blackadder Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:25

So basically the report was a waste of time and paper, well colour me shocked. Rolling Eyes

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Post by JGK Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:37

Blackadder wrote:So basically the report was a waste of time and paper, well colour me shocked. Rolling Eyes


Not really. CA Management comes out of it looking utterly shit - especially the increasingly ironically named "High Performance Unit".

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Post by taipan Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:47

So certain parts of the report were redacted because of defamation concerns.

Of course, there is one sure fire defamation defence
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Post by Blackadder Mon 29 Oct 2018, 07:05

JGK wrote:
Blackadder wrote:So basically the report was a waste of time and paper, well colour me shocked. Rolling Eyes


Not really.   CA Management comes out of it looking utterly shit - especially the increasingly ironically named "High Performance Unit".

They needed a review to tell them that? Shocked

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Post by taipan Mon 29 Oct 2018, 07:11


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2018/oct/29/cricket-australia-release-findings-of-cultural-review-live?page=with:block-5bd67064e4b08e5e4bd5df48

There are plenty of redactions in the Ethics Centre report, with just Smith, Bancroft and Warner mentioned by name. Jacquie Hey now explains they took external legal advice on that matter, and without the redacted parts, they would not have been able to publish the report publicly in full. And the whole point of undertaking the report, and for it to be “fully impactful”, was that it was transparent.

So it was redacted to make it more transparent?
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Post by horace Mon 29 Oct 2018, 07:41

Will read report in full later. Have run through the Recs and CAs craven responses, which duckshove to the ICC re our pitches or pretend they are already implementing. The response re Recs touching on the Board and senior management were prickly and defensive.
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Post by skully Mon 29 Oct 2018, 07:42

Big Dog wrote:
JGK wrote:*Apparently only 24% of players completed the survey aspect of the review.

Probably because they were all shit scared to say what they really think.

Sage

Ditto.
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Post by Bradman Mon 29 Oct 2018, 23:55

Peever seems to be on thin ice.
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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 30 Oct 2018, 01:32

Not so thin since the chest-pounding stupidity of Greg Dire and the ACA threatening to stack on exactly the kind of blue he relishes, and I suspect with a bit more public opinion on his side than he's used to....as Titus O'Reilly says in his latest literary effort, this continues to be the anti-manual for conflict resolution

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Post by skully Tue 30 Oct 2018, 20:10

CA now saying they are waiting for an official submission from the ACA re: clearing Smith, Warner and Bancroft to play immediately in the wake of the review, which implicated CA in culture problems.

Hmm, maybe there's a chance the 3 will be available for Test selection this summer.
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Post by horace Tue 30 Oct 2018, 21:06

skully wrote:CA now saying they are waiting for an official submission from the ACA re: clearing Smith, Warner and Bancroft to play immediately in the wake of the review, which implicated CA in culture problems.

Hmm, maybe there's a chance the 3 will be available for Test selection this summer.

New ICC rules on ball tampering provide for a 6 match test penalty. Theoretically, if CA decided to amend the penalties in line, this would allow the three to be available by the 4th Test.

Personally I think this would be ludicrous and a disservice to the other players they would potentially replace.

Realistically unless Bangers finds form on his return I doubt he will play Test cricket again. He did not show enough prior to the suspension. Of course WA rules could apply.

The gcspoc should never be selected again but of course he will be.

Smith will of course get another crack whenever available.

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Post by Bradman Wed 31 Oct 2018, 02:15

I can see them being permitted to play shield with a "wait and see" approach to the tests, i.e if we're getting a caning the board might wimp.
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Post by OP Tipping Wed 31 Oct 2018, 04:16

(shrugs) Marsh and others are calling for the suspensions to end in the light of this report. I don't see the logic, frankly. They still have to do their punishment.
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Post by skully Wed 31 Oct 2018, 05:00

Given CA were criticised in the review for a combative relationship with the players, CA might relent on the punishments as acknowledgment of their role in the culture problems AND as a show of good faith in a relationship building exercise with the ACA.

Then again, pigs might fly.
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Post by JGK Wed 31 Oct 2018, 05:40

Err... that might require an admission that they were wrong.

In that respect (and that only) Peever is like the Fonz.

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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 31 Oct 2018, 07:02

Dunno....Leave It To Peever prob also believes if you thump anything hard enough you can get it to work

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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 31 Oct 2018, 07:07

Bancroft actually was showing signs of settling into Test cricket before it all went tits-up....but if Renshaw's the one that ends up cementing his spot then he's shot, can't see them opting for a Banger-Wrench opening partnership and 0-50 at lunch, esp with Seasick still missing

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Post by Blackadder Wed 31 Oct 2018, 07:24

horace wrote:
skully wrote:CA now saying they are waiting for an official submission from the ACA re: clearing Smith, Warner and Bancroft to play immediately in the wake of the review, which implicated CA in culture problems.

Hmm, maybe there's a chance the 3 will be available for Test selection this summer.

New ICC rules on ball tampering provide for a 6 match test penalty. Theoretically, if CA decided to amend the penalties in line, this would allow the three to be available by the 4th Test.

Personally I think this would be ludicrous and a disservice to the other players they would potentially replace.

Realistically unless Bangers finds form on his return I doubt he will play Test cricket again. He did not show enough prior to the suspension. Of course WA rules could apply.

The gcspoc should never be selected again but of course he will be.

Smith will of course get another crack whenever available.


Would open a whole new can of worms introducing bans retrospectively,maybe a get out clause if CA say they have reduced the ban to 6 games.
Meanwhile say what you like about him, but Chappelli is bang on the money https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-30/ian-chappell-attacks-leadership-of-cricket-australia/10448310?fbclid=IwAR2xCMa-b0xQAqe9YsLNxjw-3BUgqzF_JThhpnNAD7cJdRxO8W9eBT_1nyk

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Post by JGK Wed 31 Oct 2018, 07:25

Has anyone seen Kevin Roberts in the last few days?

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