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Post by lardbucket Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:47

Ah well. It was a very heavy scoring series and I remembered Turner and Rowe; thought there might have been others.

What about a year earlier, India v Windies? Sardesai, Gavaskar, and others ...

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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:49

Nup, the Windies are not involved in the two missing instances.
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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:52

The Pak v Lankan snoozathon a couple of years ago.

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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:54

Aye.

4 or more double centuries AND 3 different double centurions in a series:
(5) Eng v Aus 1938
364 L Hutton (Eng) The Oval
240 WR Hammond (Eng) Lords
232 SJ McCabe (Aus) Trent Bridge
216 E Paynter (Eng) Trent Bridge
206 WA Brown (Aus) Lords

(4) WI v Eng 1929-30
325 A Sandham (Eng) Kingston
223 GA Headley (WI) Kingston
209 CA Roach (WI) Georgetown
205* EH Hendren (Eng) Port-of-Spain

?

(3) Aus v Ind 2003-04
257 RT Ponting (Aus) Melbourne
242 RT Ponting (Aus) Adelaide
241 SR Tendulkar (Ind) Sydney
233 R Dravid (Ind) Adelaide

(3) Pak v SL 2008-09
313 Younis Khan (Pak) Karachi
240 DPMD Jayawardene (SL) Karachi
231 TT Samaraweera (SL) Karachi
214 TT Samaraweera (SL) Lahore
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Post by WideWally Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:55

1955/56 India v NZ ??
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 07:59

And Wally cleans it up.

4 or more double centuries AND 3 different double centurions in a series:
(5) Eng v Aus 1938
364 L Hutton (Eng) The Oval
240 WR Hammond (Eng) Lords
232 SJ McCabe (Aus) Trent Bridge
216 E Paynter (Eng) Trent Bridge
206 WA Brown (Aus) Lords

(4) WI v Eng 1929-30
325 A Sandham (Eng) Kingston
223 GA Headley (WI) Kingston
209 CA Roach (WI) Georgetown
205* EH Hendren (Eng) Port-of-Spain

(3) Ind v NZ 1955-56
230* B Sutcliffe (NZ) Delhi
231 MH Mankad (Ind) Calcutta
223 MH Mankad (Ind) Bombay
223 PR Umrigar (Ind) Hyderabad

(3) Aus v Ind 2003-04
257 RT Ponting (Aus) Melbourne
242 RT Ponting (Aus) Adelaide
241 SR Tendulkar (Ind) Sydney
233 R Dravid (Ind) Adelaide

(3) Pak v SL 2008-09
313 Younis Khan (Pak) Karachi
240 DPMD Jayawardene (SL) Karachi
231 TT Samaraweera (SL) Karachi
214 TT Samaraweera (SL) Lahore
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 08:17

OK, I think the question JGK may have been alluding to is how many times has one side had 3 different double centurions in a series. The answer is 3 times. Two have already been covered - the 1938 Ashes and the current Eng v Ind series. When was the other?

Same side having 3 different double centurions in a series:
Eng v Aus 1938
364 L Hutton The Oval
240 WR Hammond Lords
216 E Paynter Trent Bridge

?

Eng v Ind 2011
294 AN Cook Edgbaston
235 IR Bell The Oval
202 KP Pietersen Lords


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Post by WideWally Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:35

1982/83 Pakistan v India ??
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:43

Aw, darn it. I looked at that series 3 times and couldn't for the life of me find the 3rd double scored in the series that Cricinfo said was scored. I now know why. It was a 6 Test series and the link page from Statsguru takes you to a series page that only shows T2 to T6 (not numbered) in a side box. Of course Zaheer Abbas scored 215 in T1 to go with 231 by Muddy and 280* by Javed in T4. Apologies. There is one other series that complies.

Same side having 3 different double centurions in a series:
Eng v Aus 1938
364 L Hutton The Oval
240 WR Hammond Lords
216 E Paynter Trent Bridge

Pak v Ind 1982-83
280* Javed Miandad Hyderabad (Sind)
231 Mudassar Nazar Hyderabad (Sind)
215 Zaheer Abbas Lahore

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Eng v Ind 2011
294 AN Cook Edgbaston
235 IR Bell The Oval
202 KP Pietersen Lords
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:45

Bump so I have the honour of starting vIII of this thread. Twisted Evil
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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:47

Windies v Saffies a few years ago.

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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:49

Yes, JGK. Filthy that I didn't persist and find Zaheer's double in the 82-83 series. Fancy assuming Cricinfo had an error. Shocked

Still, it's a pretty rare feat - only 4 times in history of the great game.

Same side having 3 different double centurions in a series:
Eng v Aus 1938
364 L Hutton The Oval
240 WR Hammond Lords
216 E Paynter Trent Bridge

Pak v Ind 1982-83
280* Javed Miandad Hyderabad (Sind)
231 Mudassar Nazar Hyderabad (Sind)
215 Zaheer Abbas Lahore

WI v SAf 2004-05
317 CH Gayle St Johns
213 WW Hinds Georgetown
203* S Chanderpaul Georgetown

Eng v Ind 2011
294 AN Cook Edgbaston
235 IR Bell The Oval
202 KP Pietersen Lords
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:52

And not a minnow to be seen. Very Happy
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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:52

I actually looked up the answer last night in anticipation of the question! The WI one was very surprising I must say.

As was Aust not doing it in 1938 because DGB's top score was only 144.


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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:53

Of course, the Poms were only 13 runs away from having a 4th player do it in 1938.

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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:54

JGK wrote:As was Aust not doing it in 1938 because DGB's top score was only 144.

Indeed. Poor form compared to his triple and 2 doubles of 1930 and triple and double of 1934.


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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:54

And the Windies were only a BCL boundary away from having a 4th as well.


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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:55

JGK wrote:And the Windies were only a BCL boundary away from having a 4th as well.

Yeah, i nearly made a note of that. Interesting triv question. Who were the 3 double century makers for the Windies v SAf in 04-05, and BCL was in the XI? I reckon you could win some bets with that one, with just about everyone assuming he was one of the double makers.
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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:56

Looking at that Windies series - BSL scored 176 out of 290 odd and 196 out of 340 odd in losing efforts and then only scored 4 in the test that otherwise had 8 centurions.

What a player when the going was tough.

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Post by JGK Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:57

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:And the Windies were only a BCL boundary away from having a 4th as well.

Yeah, i nearly made a note of that. Interesting triv question. Who were the 3 double century makers for the Windies v SAf in 04-05, and BCL was in the XI? I reckon you could win some bets with that one, with just about everyone assuming he was one of the double makers.


Ditton with who were the 5 double centurions in the 1938 Ashes?

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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:57

JGK wrote:Of course, the Poms were only 13 runs away from having a 4th player do it in 1938.
Hutton was hogging the strike, otherwise they could have had 3 double makers in the one innings. Cool
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Post by skully Sun 21 Aug 2011, 10:59

JGK wrote:Looking at that Windies series - BSL scored 176 out of 290 odd and 196 out of 340 odd in losing efforts and then only scored 4 in the test that otherwise had 8 centurions.

What a player when the going was tough.
Aye. A rare talent. L > T. Cool
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Post by Allan D Sun 21 Aug 2011, 12:51

skully wrote:
JGK wrote:Of course, the Poms were only 13 runs away from having a 4th player do it in 1938.
Hutton was hogging the strike, otherwise they could have had 3 double makers in the one innings. Cool

Morris Leyland would have also preceded Seymour Nurse by 30 years in scoring a double in his last Test innings had he not been run out. He nevertheless became the first player to score a century in his first and last Test innings against Australia.

As the Oval match was a timeless Test (the last in England) there was no reason for Hammond to declare in which case not only would Joe Hardstaff have made a double (he had to wait until after WWII to get one against the Bannies) but there would have had to have been a nail hammered into The Oval scoreboard as England score added a fourth digit.

Incidentally two records from that match that are sacred to all Tyke supporters: the 2nd wicket partnership of 382 between Hutton and Leyland is the highest by two players from the same county and the England side in that match had the highest representation from one county with 5 in the form of Hutton, Leyland, Wood, Verity and Bowes, all from Tykeland of course.
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Post by skully Mon 22 Aug 2011, 06:39

India have just conceded 500+ runs in 3 consecutive Test innings v Eng. Another instance (SL v Eng in 2002) was also covered in a previous Q. Can you name the other 2 occasions that a team has allowed this to happen?

Team conceding 500+ in 3 or more consecutive Test innings:
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529-5d SL v Eng Lords 2002 2nd Inn
545 v Eng Edgbaston 2002 Only Inn
512 v Eng Old Trafford 2002 1st Inn

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544 Ind v Eng Nottingham 2011 2nd Inn
710-7d v Eng Birmingham 2011 Only Inn
591-6d v Eng The Oval 2011 Only Inn
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Post by JGK Mon 22 Aug 2011, 07:26

Against England?

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