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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 26 Nov 2013, 07:53
How did the...
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- ... camp go from like eight people to forty overnight? There were only a few of them, then suddenly Martinez is killed and it's a mob.
Mitch got over the death of his brother pretty quick.
"I murdered your brother"
"Whoa now. That's not cool."
"But you can be my second in command."
"Well now you're talking. You should've opened with that."
So the Governor's journey this past two episodes has been: "I'm sad" to "I've grown a beard" to "I've shaved my beard" to "I'm a good guy now" to "And now I'm a bad guy again" to "Oh yeah, I was plotting revenge against the prison gang all along". Right you are, then.
Didn't care much for the episode, but the guy who plays Mitch could be a good addition to the cast. He was one of the best characters as Alvarez in the series Oz - ironically set in a prison. Which is where he's headed in TWD.
I imagine the thinking at casting HQ went something along the lines of: "You know who looks just... right, in a prison setting? That guy from that prison show."
Oh yeah, they've got a f*cking tank. That's handy.
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- I don't know the precise details, but I've heard it mentioned before that the Governor stormed the prison with tanks in a bloodbath (Lori and the newborn are killed) before taking power and subjecting the inmates to his increasingly sadistic rules and regulations. It seemed like this wasn't going to happen as the "prison battle" appeared to take place at the end of last season, but I guess that was a red herring.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by skully Tue 26 Nov 2013, 08:25
Dello wrote:
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Oh yeah, they've got a f*cking tank. That's handy.
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- Yup, the Guv has been his own walking, not-talking soap opera in the last 2 eps.
The tank arrival was a cracker. Martinez just happened to find it lying around, fully fueled, keys in the ignition, and no doubt with several rounds ready to fire. I wonder if it's the same tank that Glen (or was it Rick?) escaped from in S1??
I wonder who of Rick's regular crew will bite the dust in the mid-season finale battle? What chance Carol rides into town as the saviour with a bazooka as the solution to the mid-season cliffhanger??
Of course, we've now had to wait 2 full episodes and we still don't know what Daryl's reaction to Carol's banishment is.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 26 Nov 2013, 08:30
Ach - I've spoilered myself by reading up a bit more on the events in the comic.
Not that they have strictly followed the comic in the TV show (Dale, Andrea and Sophia are still going strong at this stage in print).
But there's a couple of things that sound very likely to happen next week if, as expected...
Not that they have strictly followed the comic in the TV show (Dale, Andrea and Sophia are still going strong at this stage in print).
But there's a couple of things that sound very likely to happen next week if, as expected...
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- ... it's THE prison attack.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 26 Nov 2013, 08:42
(Don't read. Really, don't do it. Don't give in to the temptation. No sir)
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- The prisoners that died in the battle in the comic were Lori and Asskicker (are they really going to kill a baby on PG14 TV?) and the Governor shot dead Hershel and BEHEADED Tyreese.
As usual, the black guy doesn't last very long. If they mix it up, they could get rid of the other black guy instead (with the drinking problem). He wouldn't be missed. Hershel would be a loss and a half, though.
We'll see...
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Re: The Walking Dead
by skully Mon 02 Dec 2013, 06:08
S04E08 - Too Far Gone. Shit a brick – Red Wedding-ish mid-season cliffhanger!!! I'm sweating!!
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- The Guv kidnaps Hershel & Michonne, who were outside the prison burning the walkers that Rick & Carl mowed down. He spins his “people” a line about Rick’s crew burning his camp, killing his daughter & being baddies to convince them to take the prison using his 2 captives as collateral. Lilly has doubts.
Hershel tries to bargain for co-existence, but the Guv says Rick, Michonne & he couldn’t live together. Michonne snarls her agreement. The Guv only cares about “his people”.
Maggie & recovering Glenn share some tender moments. We finally sees Daryl’s reaction to the Carol banishment. Rick reasons that Tyreese would’ve wanted retribution. Daryl snarls “let’s find out”. Sasha thanks drunky Bob for helping get the medical supplies that saved her & the others.
As Rick & Daryl attempt to tell Tyreese that Carol did the killing & burning, he shows them a tortured rat, but before they have the chat, a tank shot hits the prison. The Guv’s party is at the fence. Let the bargaining begin!!
The Guv trots out Hershel & Michonne. The prison group nod their approval for Rick to talk. Daryl tells the crew to get ready to head for the bus, & they’ll head for the woods if the Guv attacks. The Guv gives Rick until sundown to vacate or the 2 hostages die. Daryl arms everyone.
Back at the Guv’s temporary camp, a walker hand comes out of the mud at Megan. Lilly, who’d been watching a walker try the cross the stream, shoots it as it bites inot Megan’s arm.
Rick gives an impassioned plea for co-existence. The Guv says “liar” & hacks halfway through Hershel’s neck with a katana!!! FMD, you one-eyed son of a bitch!!! Daryl’s crew opens fire & wing the Guv. Rick gets hit in the leg running for cover. Both groups fire a shitload of rounds at each other. As they do, the Guv kneels down & finishes the job on Hershel. Fark!!! RIP Hershel.
Tara cowers from the shots. Mitch yells at her to fire back, then the Guv looks up to see Lilly carrying Megan’s body. He calmly walks over & puts a bullet in Megan’s head. The Guv gives the “kill ‘em all” order. Michonne disappears in the confusion.
The tank flattens the fence. As it pumps rounds into the prison, the good guys run to the bus. As his crew march forward behind the tank, the Guv is tackled by Rick, & they beat the snot out of each other.
Maggie gets Glenn & the recovering folk out of the prison to the bus, but Beth has gone for Judith. Walkers approach Daryl, but he grabs one and uses it as a shield to get close enough to take out a bunch with a grenade. Tara wanders off in a daze. The bus leaves without Rick, Carl, Maggie, Daryl, Tyreese, Beth, Bob & Sasha.
As 2 of the Guv’s people stalk Tyreese, one is taken out from behind. The other turns to see Carol’s girls with pistols. She then cops a bullet to the forehead. Choice!!!
The Guv has got the upper hand on Rick & is throttling him back in the long grass. As Rick's eyes bulge & he turns purple, a katana spears out of the Guv’s chest. Yay, it’s Michonne!!! All Rick cares about is Carl. Stupidly, Michonne doesn’t finish off the Guv, presumably because she thinks he’s just about dead.
Daryl feeds a grenade into the tank barrel & guts it. Mitch just scrambles out but cops a crossbow dart in the heart from Daryl. Beth appears & she & Daryl scarper. Rick stumbles up to the prison calling for his son. As walkers approach the unarmed Rick, they are shot down by Carl. The boy doesn’t know where Judith is. They find her bloodied & empty carrier.
As walkers overrun the prison, Lilly walks up to the writhing Guv & puts a bullet in his head. Rick & Carl stagger away through the woods from the smoking, walker-infested prison.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Henry Mon 02 Dec 2013, 06:40
Wow, gunfire and blood aplenty in the mid-season finale!
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- The one thing I didn't buy was Daryl using a decaying old walker to shield himself from a barrage of machine gun fire, before he throws a grenade at his attackers. Some of the walkers have rotting flesh that peels off the bone if you try and grab them, so for Daryl to be able to block machine gun fire with one of them was far-fetched to say the least.
Looking ahead, Carol will obviously show up again, and I don't think the baby is dead. No doubt Beth will re-appear with the little one at some stage later in the series. They've finally given Beth some sort of purpose, because up to now she's added nothing as a character. And who is the psychopath mutilating all the rats and feeding the walkers? My money's on the alcoholic Bob, who's clearly ashamed about who he really is, ie a psychopathic weirdo who will probably snap sometime soon and kill some people. Or is it Lizzie- The slightly weird little girl who's finds it a little too easy to shoot people?
And we didn't actually SEE the Governor shot by Lily, did we. Perhaps she was protecting him from the approaching walkers? Although SURELY that's the end of him. It'll be ridiculous if it turns out he somehow escaped alive. I guess they're leaving the option open in case they run out of story ideas later on.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by skully Mon 02 Dec 2013, 07:57
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- The Guv wasn't dead when Lilly shot him. Does that mean he'll come back as a walker?
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Re: The Walking Dead
by skully Mon 02 Dec 2013, 21:56
Had a bit of a chance to catch my breath and think about some of the little tidbits from the cracking mid-season finale...
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- Who is the rat killer? Is it Bob? As Sasha was urging him to run to safety during the gun battle, he was very protective of the shoebox he was holding. Is he Willard to Stuart Little in the box?
Did Judith survive? I'm betting yes.
Will Lizzie and her sister become the new Carls (gun-toting kiddies), after their saving of Tyreese? And Daryl will be able to shove a "fark you" down Tyreese's throat if he cracks the shits about Carol killing his girl, cos her training of the young'uns saved his life.
What of Lilly and Tara? Both seemed to survive the carnage.
Of course, what location becomes the next sanctuary for Rick's crew, or will our fave troops be spread to the 4 winds for a while? Probably.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Henry Mon 02 Dec 2013, 22:38
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- Sooner or later, they'll have to float the idea of there being a cure. Remember the crackling radio transmission that Daryl picked up in the car when they were on the meds run? I'm willing to bet there is some sort of military compound out there with doctors and scientists.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 03 Dec 2013, 02:59
Well, that happened.skully wrote:S04E08 - Too Far Gone. Shit a brick – Red Wedding-ish mid-season cliffhanger!!! I'm sweating!!
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Hershel tries to bargain for co-existence, but the Guv says Rick, Michonne & he couldn’t live together. Michonne snarls her agreement. The Guv only cares about “his people”.
Maggie & recovering Glenn share some tender moments. We finally sees Daryl’s reaction to the Carol banishment. Rick reasons that Tyreese would’ve wanted retribution. Daryl snarls “let’s find out”. Sasha thanks drunky Bob for helping get the medical supplies that saved her & the others.
As Rick & Daryl attempt to tell Tyreese that Carol did the killing & burning, he shows them a tortured rat, but before they have the chat, a tank shot hits the prison. The Guv’s party is at the fence. Let the bargaining begin!!
The Guv trots out Hershel & Michonne. The prison group nod their approval for Rick to talk. Daryl tells the crew to get ready to head for the bus, & they’ll head for the woods if the Guv attacks. The Guv gives Rick until sundown to vacate or the 2 hostages die. Daryl arms everyone.
Back at the Guv’s temporary camp, a walker hand comes out of the mud at Megan. Lilly, who’d been watching a walker try the cross the stream, shoots it as it bites inot Megan’s arm.
Rick gives an impassioned plea for co-existence. The Guv says “liar” & hacks halfway through Hershel’s neck with a katana!!! FMD, you one-eyed son of a bitch!!! Daryl’s crew opens fire & wing the Guv. Rick gets hit in the leg running for cover. Both groups fire a shitload of rounds at each other. As they do, the Guv kneels down & finishes the job on Hershel. Fark!!! RIP Hershel.
Tara cowers from the shots. Mitch yells at her to fire back, then the Guv looks up to see Lilly carrying Megan’s body. He calmly walks over & puts a bullet in Megan’s head. The Guv gives the “kill ‘em all” order. Michonne disappears in the confusion.
The tank flattens the fence. As it pumps rounds into the prison, the good guys run to the bus. As his crew march forward behind the tank, the Guv is tackled by Rick, & they beat the snot out of each other.
Maggie gets Glenn & the recovering folk out of the prison to the bus, but Beth has gone for Judith. Walkers approach Daryl, but he grabs one and uses it as a shield to get close enough to take out a bunch with a grenade. Tara wanders off in a daze. The bus leaves without Rick, Carl, Maggie, Daryl, Tyreese, Beth, Bob & Sasha.
As 2 of the Guv’s people stalk Tyreese, one is taken out from behind. The other turns to see Carol’s girls with pistols. She then cops a bullet to the forehead. Choice!!!
The Guv has got the upper hand on Rick & is throttling him back in the long grass. As Rick's eyes bulge & he turns purple, a katana spears out of the Guv’s chest. Yay, it’s Michonne!!! All Rick cares about is Carl. Stupidly, Michonne doesn’t finish off the Guv, presumably because she thinks he’s just about dead.
Daryl feeds a grenade into the tank barrel & guts it. Mitch just scrambles out but cops a crossbow dart in the heart from Daryl. Beth appears & she & Daryl scarper. Rick stumbles up to the prison calling for his son. As walkers approach the unarmed Rick, they are shot down by Carl. The boy doesn’t know where Judith is. They find her bloodied & empty carrier.
As walkers overrun the prison, Lilly walks up to the writhing Guv & puts a bullet in his head. Rick & Carl stagger away through the woods from the smoking, walker-infested prison.
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- Didn't take much convincing for the Governor to rally a ragtag of previously benign strangers into a bloodthirsty death squad. Even when Rick was being perfectly reasonable at the gate. As survival instincts go, I'm not sure wasting all your ammunition on fellow humans who happen to live in a dubiously better neighbourhood (in spite of no real sense of danger surrounding their camp for all this time) is the smartest way to go, given that the main enemy is the walkers. Then again, they destroyed the fences and were firing shells from a tank at their prospective new home, so smarts left town a while back...
Daryl took the news of Carol's banishment quite well, all things considered. Feels like they're setting up her return by hinting at there being a different culprit, who she was presumably covering for. One of those dead-eyed girls or Carl, I'd guess.
I don't know why Michonne's katana can slice through about five walkers at a time but needs four or five hacks to get through Hershal's neck. That thick beard, I guess. Should've shaved him first.
Anyway, it looks like we're headed into a brave new Walking Dead world as (I think) in the comics, the Governor took the prison and subjected the surviving inhabitants to his sadistic regime for a good long while. We're back to the end of season two, with everyone fleeing the farm. Who is still alive? Where are they headed?
I'm glad they've confirmed my long held theory that walkers can't cross water. Head to the coast, dipshits. There's a few little islands around the Georgia/South Carolina fringes.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 03 Dec 2013, 03:01
This was the comic book outcome. Obviously Lori couldn't die this time. Although it would've been neat if she'd turned up and claimed to have been hiding all this time (they never found her body) - and then they killed her.Dello wrote:(Don't read. Really, don't do it. Don't give in to the temptation. No sir)
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Tue 03 Dec 2013, 03:04
Have you forgotten about her singing? Around the campfire. That stuff is vital.Henry wrote:
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Nath Tue 03 Dec 2013, 10:21
"we all have jobs to do"Dello wrote:Have you forgotten about her singing? Around the campfire. That stuff is vital.Henry wrote:
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Brass Monkey Wed 04 Dec 2013, 10:14
Top pic. Yeah, what a mid series break. I hate mid season shit. Top business.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by skully Tue 28 Jan 2014, 07:55
Cheers, BD. Good news.
Although I am backlogged ATM. I have 5 eps of The Blacklist, 1 of Grimm, 1 of Arrow, and a handful of eps from other shows I keep up with still to watch. Must pull my "finger" out.
Although I am backlogged ATM. I have 5 eps of The Blacklist, 1 of Grimm, 1 of Arrow, and a handful of eps from other shows I keep up with still to watch. Must pull my "finger" out.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Nath Tue 04 Feb 2014, 10:18
skully wrote:I'm looking forward to Monday arvo.
I forgot it was this Monday, but excited now
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Henry Tue 04 Feb 2014, 14:52
I'm bracing myself for disappointment. I have a sneaking suspicion we'll quickly realise the show has peaked.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by LeFromage Wed 05 Feb 2014, 00:24
No doubt. You can't have three different show runners in three years without it all ending up a bit of mess.
But it's still watchable and that's good enough.
But it's still watchable and that's good enough.
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Re: The Walking Dead
by Henry Sun 09 Feb 2014, 22:58
So it returns tonight. Predictions?
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- They need to bring in something fresh- A new strain of the zombie virus that makes them faster and stronger? Stumbling across a medical facility that is working on a cure? A venture into a completely different part of the Country? (or are they obliged to film the whole thing in Georgia?) No doubt Rick will be given a new love interest. And Daryl is well overdue a bird as well. The baby and Beth will obviously be fine. There will need to be a new villain, now that the Governor is gone. Perhaps it's someone from within their own group? Maybe they'll stumble across some more organised resistance- A government facility, or a group of soldiers. Daryl had picked up a crackling signal on the radio after all. Anyway, just a few hours to go
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