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Post by taipan Tue 21 Jan 2014, 15:06

Bradman wrote:I don't recognise NTR.  Anyway I was talking about skull's appreciation for the reintro of the "tits".

Well, that is one of the meanings.
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 15:43

Exactly. What is recognition. Is acknowledgement of non-rcognition, recognition itself. One could ponder whilst one pokes the teddy bear but one wonders in the end, by way of termination, as it were, why let semantics get in the way of a good tit shot.
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 22:48

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/picking-shaun-marsh-a-joke-says-sixers-keeper-daniel-smith/story-e6frg7rx-1226807106953#

Pity it had to come from someone with nothing to lose.

"Inverarity has to go.......picking players 'in a good space' over players with runs on the board is a joke."
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Post by G.Wood Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:00

Did he present an alternative?

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Post by Red Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:08

One interesting thing about the selection though is that it does go against the Argus recommendations which suggested that players should be picked on form.

It does sound mixed messages to the SS players.

As for alternatives, the reality is that Marsh is 34th on the list of first class averages for the season. I agree that selection should be also based around a player's ability to translate his form to the next level, not just on hard statistics but Marsh really has had nothing to recommend him apart from a few solid ODI innings and his performances at the highest level have been mixed with a very ordinary first class output since he was last dropped from the test arena.
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:09

The usual suspects from memory. I'm not subscribed either (buy the old fashioned content, purely for the sports and business you understand. Not reading any of the fascist crap at the front) but it came to me via a link from the media monitoring site I use.

Even if he didn't and he was just dumping a bucket of shit on the NSP, it was a well deserved bucket of shit.
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Post by Red Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:19

Bradman wrote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/picking-shaun-marsh-a-joke-says-sixers-keeper-daniel-smith/story-e6frg7rx-1226807106953#

Pity it had to come from someone with nothing to lose.

"Inverarity has to go.......picking players 'in a good space' over players with runs on the board is a joke."

I find now in my workplace that the only people willing to speak up are those with nothing to lose, i.e. close to retirement. The rest of us are loath to, especially those very young ones desperately seeking promotion or who want their contract renewed. Smile 
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:19

Just re-read it. The reporter names the usual suspects and uses the tweet to drop a load of his own on the ever growing pile of excrement out there in cyberspace.
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Post by G.Wood Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:22

They did pick Johnson because he was "in a good space" and performance in ODIs. A bit different for a batsman admittely but they do have recent form doing it.
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:26

Red wrote:
Bradman wrote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/picking-shaun-marsh-a-joke-says-sixers-keeper-daniel-smith/story-e6frg7rx-1226807106953#

Pity it had to come from someone with nothing to lose.

"Inverarity has to go.......picking players 'in a good space' over players with runs on the board is a joke."

I find now in my workplace that the only people willing to speak up are those with nothing to lose, i.e. close to retirement. The rest of us are loath to, especially those very young ones desperately seeking promotion or who want their contract renewed. Smile 

Well at least you can have some fun loading the creppies up with booze or pills and letting them have at the tyrants on behalf 'of those they would throttle". Either that or shoot the bastards yourself and claim Marsh's selection saw you lose all reason momentarily.
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Post by Bradman Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:28

G.Wood wrote:They did pick Johnson because he was "in a good space" and performance in ODIs.  A bit different for a batsman admittely but they do have recent form doing it.

Yeah. It's the "recent form" bit that worries me. How long before it becomes habit.
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Post by G.Wood Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:32

Well Marsh won't come off so that will hopefully break it
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Post by horace Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:05

embee wrote:Cricinfo on Bog's selection

Pointing out all the statistical reasons why he didnt deserve selection and then giving the reasons he probably was

Liked by Boof ( who coached him in the IPL)

Liked by the team ( who remember his batting in his first few games)


he has scored very few tons for a veteran FC player...someone on radio (hoggy the 1st, I think) said hughes had scored three times as many centuries as bog...this really is the most strange selection since the Watkins incident
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Post by skully Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:33

Fatty Smith didn't say anything we haven't already said in here.
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Post by JGK Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:34

I reckon it's a genius move by the selectors. 

Doolan will play and unless he gets a pair or pairs will play all 3 tests. Therefore Marsh is just there to make up the numbers. Meanwhile, the real next in liners and getting good solid Shield workouts back in Oz against a few bowlers desperate to get to the front of the queue when Rhino finishes sometime in the next 12 months and hopefully a desperate spinner looking for a possible Test spot for the UAE tests.

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Post by JGK Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:37

Looks like Smith's tweet has been deleted.  There is now this:

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Apologies about the tweet regarding selections. I was disappointed for a good mate if mine for being left out of the SA tour. No excuse.

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Post by horace Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:39

surely the 'plan' is to bat Bog at 3 and clotto or fork at 6 ...I just hope Bog does not get into the mini-bar, get smashed and wipe out someone (unless it is Clotto)
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Post by Bradman Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:39

JGK wrote:I reckon it's a genius move by the selectors. 

Doolan will play and unless he gets a pair or pairs will play all 3 tests. Therefore Marsh is just there to make up the numbers. Meanwhile, the real next in liners and getting good solid Shield workouts back in Oz against a few bowlers desperate to get to the front of the queue when Rhino finishes sometime in the next 12 months and hopefully a desperate spinner looking for a possible Test spot for the UAE tests.

Well looking long term yeah. But that would be mistaking ineptitude for strategy.
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Post by JGK Wed 22 Jan 2014, 00:50

Hey, I am trying to turn into a glass half full kind of guy...

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Post by embee Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:02

G.Wood wrote:Did he present an alternative?

(Link won't show story as I'm not subscribed)


SHAUN Marsh's shock selection in the touring party to South Africa has drawn flak from cricket watchers - and even a current player.

Sydney Sixers wicketkeeper Daniel Smith has raised his head above the parapet to lambaste national selector John Inverarity on Twitter.

"I'm sorry but Inverarity has to go," Smith tweeted to his 15,000 followers after the Australian squad was announced on Monday. "Picking players in a 'good space' over players with runs on the board is a joke."

Smith was referring to Inverarity repeatedly saying on Monday that Marsh was in a "good space". This was despite Marsh averaging just 25 in first-class ranks since his last Test, against India in Adelaide two years ago.

The West Australian lurched through that Test series to average 2.83, while his teammates filled their boots - Michael Clarke averaged 125, Ricky Ponting 109 and Mike Hussey 58 - against an underwhelming Indian attack.

Marsh's recall - foreshadowed by The Australian on Monday - makes a mockery of the Argus review clause that says it is "critical that superior performance is rewarded", and "players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs".

With just 248 runs at 31 before the Sheffield Shield entered its hiatus for the Big Bash league, Marsh ranks 34th in the competition aggregate.

Marcus North has 593 runs at 99 and Phil Hughes 549 at 61.

Smith was not alone in being shocked at Marsh's selection - online forums were full of posts from outraged fans and even Marsh was startled by his recall.

"I was pretty surprised when John called me the other night but it is a fantastic opportunity for me now," he said.
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Post by Red Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:34

G.Wood wrote:They did pick Johnson because he was "in a good space" and performance in ODIs.  A bit different for a batsman admittely but they do have recent form doing it.

Think though, as has been noted by several critics, Johnson probably would not have played in Brisbane had Pattinson, Cummins and Starc been fit.
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Post by Red Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:37

embee wrote:
G.Wood wrote:Did he present an alternative?

(Link won't show story as I'm not subscribed)


SHAUN Marsh's shock selection in the touring party to South Africa has drawn flak from cricket watchers - and even a current player.

Sydney Sixers wicketkeeper Daniel Smith has raised his head above the parapet to lambaste national selector John Inverarity on Twitter.

"I'm sorry but Inverarity has to go," Smith tweeted to his 15,000 followers after the Australian squad was announced on Monday. "Picking players in a 'good space' over players with runs on the board is a joke."

Smith was referring to Inverarity repeatedly saying on Monday that Marsh was in a "good space". This was despite Marsh averaging just 25 in first-class ranks since his last Test, against India in Adelaide two years ago.

The West Australian lurched through that Test series to average 2.83, while his teammates filled their boots - Michael Clarke averaged 125, Ricky Ponting 109 and Mike Hussey 58 - against an underwhelming Indian attack.

Marsh's recall - foreshadowed by The Australian on Monday - makes a mockery of the Argus review clause that says it is "critical that superior performance is rewarded", and "players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs".

With just 248 runs at 31 before the Sheffield Shield entered its hiatus for the Big Bash league, Marsh ranks 34th in the competition aggregate.

Marcus North has 593 runs at 99 and Phil Hughes 549 at 61.

Smith was not alone in being shocked at Marsh's selection - online forums were full of posts from outraged fans and even Marsh was startled by his recall.

"I was pretty surprised when John called me the other night but it is a fantastic opportunity for me now," he said.

Interesting the American spelling was used.  Where is Merlin? Smile 
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Post by Bradman Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:44

JGK wrote:Hey, I am trying to turn into a glass half full kind of guy...

Give up. Just assume the world hates you and maintain the rage.

I was talking baout the NSP when I said 'ineptitude'.
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Post by JGK Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:45

G.Wood wrote:Did he present an alternative?

(Link won't show story as I'm not subscribed)

Hughes

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Post by Bradman Wed 22 Jan 2014, 01:46

JGK wrote:Looks like Smith's tweet has been deleted.  There is now this:

Daniel Smith ‏
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Apologies about the tweet regarding selections. I was disappointed for a good mate if mine for being left out of the SA tour. No excuse.

Farking CA.
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