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Post by taipan Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:43

Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

Did they ever ban anyone?
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Post by lardbucket Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:43

Might have been >15 degrees at the WACA, but it was only 11 degrees at the MCG.

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Post by embee Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:45

WideWally wrote:Speaking of degrees & the University of Western Australia .........

If they can't accurately measure this, should any degree from this establishment have a big asterisk beside it?



Mine's from ECU ...still no reason not to have an asterisk

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Post by lardbucket Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:47

Bachelor of Assassination, Master of Dipsomania, Pretty hopeless Driver?

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Post by lardbucket Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:48

taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Always blame the Wozzie.

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Post by taipan Tue 09 Sep 2014, 08:48

lardbucket wrote:He's 37?

Degrees?
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 09 Sep 2014, 09:01

I'm so happy. It's like a mass hunting down of war criminals. The crying shame is that Muttiah isn't still playing.

Honestly, this round up has been wicked. All these cheats chucking with impunity until now... these decisions could be exceptionally important to the future of our game. In 50 years, they could've been playing some strange form of baseball.
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Post by Big Dog Tue 09 Sep 2014, 09:30

taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

Did they ever ban anyone?

Not that i recall.
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Post by JGK Tue 09 Sep 2014, 09:45

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Post by Big Dog Tue 09 Sep 2014, 09:48

JGK wrote:Vaughan trolling Ajmal - Page 2 BxEmo-BIIAIDdF_

Amen
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Post by MoH Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:02

Brass Monkey wrote:I'm so happy. It's like a mass hunting down of war criminals. The crying shame is that Muttiah isn't still playing.

Honestly, this round up has been wicked. All these cheats chucking with impunity until now... these decisions could be exceptionally important to the future of our game. In 50 years, they could've been playing some strange form of baseball.

Nah, pyrrhic victory. Ajmal's wickets still stand, England still lost 3-0 to Pak (although admittedly that wasn't all Ajmal's doing).

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Post by MoH Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:06

taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

Did they ever ban anyone?

Well, to be pedantic, the institution doing the testing doesn't ban the bowler, it's up to the ICC to do the banning. But I'm pretty sure they're the lot that confirmed Botha was chucking.

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Post by MoH Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:07

Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

But he could bowl with that brace on! I saw it with my own eyes!!

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Post by MoH Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:08

Are the PCB still seeking clarification from the ECB about Broad's comments?

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Post by taipan Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:14

MoH wrote:
taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

Did they ever ban anyone?

Well, to be pedantic, the institution doing the testing doesn't ban the bowler, it's up to the ICC to do the banning. But I'm pretty sure they're the lot that confirmed Botha was chucking.

And Botha is still playing.
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Post by MoH Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:15

taipan wrote:
MoH wrote:
taipan wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
taipan wrote:So has Perth been getting it wrong all these years?

Absolutely. The day they cleared MuMu they lost all credibility.

Did they ever ban anyone?

Well, to be pedantic, the institution doing the testing doesn't ban the bowler, it's up to the ICC to do the banning. But I'm pretty sure they're the lot that confirmed Botha was chucking.

And Botha is still playing.

Yes, cleared by CA I believe! Must have done some 'remedial' work on his action.

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Post by embee Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:17

Bowlers suspended for illegal actions (since 1999)

Shoaib Akhtar, December 1999: The Pakistan speedster was banned after he was reported during a Test series against Australia, but the suspension was quickly overturned on appeal. The Rawalpindi Express was reported several times following his short ban and ordered to undergo remedial work, but was never officially suspended again.

Shabbir Ahmed, December 2005: Having been reported multiple times in his short career, the Pakistan fast bowler was banned for 12 months after he was reported during a Test match against England. Shabbir never played Test cricket again, however he returned to Pakistan domestic cricket after his ban ended.

James Kirtley, September 2005: Having been reported several times, the right-arm quick was suspended by the England and Wales Cricket Board and ordered to undergo remedial work after it determined he had an illegal action. He was later cleared to return, but his action regularly came under heavy scrutiny until he retired in 2010.

Johan Botha, February 2006: The Proteas off-spinner was suspended after he was cited during South Africa's tour of Australia. Having returned to international cricket in 2007 after working on his action, Botha again came under the spotlight in May 2009 when his doosra was banned for falling outside the legal limits. Now playing with the West End Redbacks and Adelaide Strikers, Botha's action has come under suspicion several times since.

Marlon Samuels, February 2008: The West Indies all-rounder was banned from bowling after he was reported during a Test against South Africa in Durban. He continued to play as a batsman only and later returned to bowling after having his re-modelled action cleared by the ICC. However, in December 2013, he was banned from bowling his quicker deliveries after he was reported following a Test series against India.

Abdur Razzak, December 2008: The Bangladesh left-armer was suspended after tests determined he bowled with an arm bend of between 22 and 28 degrees. He returned to international cricket in July 2009 after the ICC determined his re-modelled action was legal.

Shane Shillingford, December 2010: The West Indies off-spinner was suspended after he was reported in his first Test match, against South Africa in Port-of-Spain. His re-modelled action was cleared by the ICC in May 2011, but his action has come under scrutiny several times since. He was banned a second time in December 2013 and was only allowed to return to international cricket in March on the condition that he didn't bowl his doosra.

Sachithra Senanayake, July 2014: The Sri Lanka off-spinner was banned after the ICC determined four deliveries he sent down in the fourth one-day international at Lord’s breached the 15- degree guideline. He was then sent to Perth to undergo remedial work in the hope that his re-modelled action will be cleared. He is targeting a return for a seven-match ODI series against England in November.

Kane Williamson, July 2014: The New Zealand batsman and part-time off-spinner was banned after he was reported during a Test match in the West Indies. He will continue playing as a batsman only and will undergo remedial work on his action in the hope he can return to the bowling crease.

Saeed Ajmal, September 2014: The Pakistan off-spinner was banned with immediate effect after the ICC's Human Movement Specialists found all his deliveries exceeded the 15 degrees level of tolerance permitted under the regulations.
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Post by skully Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:44

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And so say all of us.
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Post by embee Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:54

"bend" should be "flex"

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Post by skully Tue 09 Sep 2014, 11:16

And Murali's arrow should be pointing at 90.

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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 09 Sep 2014, 11:56

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Nah, pyrrhic victory. Ajmal's wickets still stand, England still lost 3-0 to Pak (although admittedly that wasn't all Ajmal's doing).

Ajmal will always be mentioned in regards to chucking - that's almost enough for me.

England would've lost anyway.
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Post by Henry Tue 09 Sep 2014, 14:39

So who's next on the list then? Pragyan Ojha?

But I bet the ICC won't go near a suspicious Indian bowler.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 09 Sep 2014, 15:10

Henry wrote:So who's next on the list then? Pragyan Ojha?

But I bet the ICC won't go near a suspicious Indian bowler.

I doubt the ICC would go near domestic bowlers.
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Post by beamer Tue 09 Sep 2014, 19:30

So the best two spinners in world cricket are now Rangana Herath and Nathan Lyon? All time low perhaps?

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Post by WideWally Tue 09 Sep 2014, 22:41

beamer wrote:So the best two spinners in world cricket are now Rangana Herath and Nathan Lyon? All time low perhaps?

The world's spinning stocks would have been fairly low around 1990.
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