The UK General Election Thread (II)
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Very disappointing night for the Lib Dems after all the hype.
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They're polling slightly higher than in 2005 and a lot better than they were before the first debate.
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Esther Rantzen gets her arse handed to her in Luton South.
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On a knife edge, between a couple of seats majority for the Tories, and some sort of negotiation (or something).Perhaps Tories plus Nornironers (minus Peter Robinson).
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They need to win half of the remaining undeclared 200 seats to do it.
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Lib Dem showing a big disappointment.
Did The Debates have any effect? Perhaps first to raise the LibDem profile back to some of the old levels, only to lose momentum when Clegg fumbled around towards the end of the third debate and especially fluffed the "I.I. Amnesty" issue.
Always bad to go backwards, momentum wise.
Tended in this case (I suppose) to leave the Lib Dems prey to the old squeeze in many constituencies. (i.e. either a vote for Cameronchange, or a vote against Cameronchange, ... with a possible LibDem vote lost in the rush.)
Did The Debates have any effect? Perhaps first to raise the LibDem profile back to some of the old levels, only to lose momentum when Clegg fumbled around towards the end of the third debate and especially fluffed the "I.I. Amnesty" issue.
Always bad to go backwards, momentum wise.
Tended in this case (I suppose) to leave the Lib Dems prey to the old squeeze in many constituencies. (i.e. either a vote for Cameronchange, or a vote against Cameronchange, ... with a possible LibDem vote lost in the rush.)
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I have to say I am delighted that Gisela Stuart has held her seat.
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On the positive side, UKIP and the BNP (!) come absolutely nowhere significant.
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Basil wrote:Vernon Bogdanor on the BBC - ever so slightly biased towards the Tories!!
I know VB - I think it's more that he has a great gra for his former star pupil than that he is a dyed-in-the-wool or rabid Tory.
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Thirsk & Malton which should be a safe pick-up for the Tories based on past experience won't vote for another three weeks due to the death of the UKIP candidate. Will GB wait until then before conceding?
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It's fun watching Labour trying to explain this as a victory
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What be the latest? Still a while before there's a clear outcome - or a not-so-clear outcome at least?
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Cons won't get 326.
Lab + LDP won't be 326
Total shitfight.
Lab + LDP won't be 326
Total shitfight.
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I think it's almost certainly going to be a Tory minority government.
Even if the Lib Dems go into a coalition with Labour they still won't have enough for a majority. That means dealing with the smaller parties. Sinn Fein aren't going to take their seats, the Unionists are supposedly siding with the Conservatives. That leaves the Scots, the Welsh and the Greens MP.
I can't see the Lib Dems wanting to involve themselves with that shitfight.
They'll play both sides for a couple of days while trying to get a few concessions out of the Tories. Clegg will then come out and say the Lib Dems won't be going into coalition with anyone, but will allow a Conservative minority government to stay in power, forcing Brown to resign.
Even if the Lib Dems go into a coalition with Labour they still won't have enough for a majority. That means dealing with the smaller parties. Sinn Fein aren't going to take their seats, the Unionists are supposedly siding with the Conservatives. That leaves the Scots, the Welsh and the Greens MP.
I can't see the Lib Dems wanting to involve themselves with that shitfight.
They'll play both sides for a couple of days while trying to get a few concessions out of the Tories. Clegg will then come out and say the Lib Dems won't be going into coalition with anyone, but will allow a Conservative minority government to stay in power, forcing Brown to resign.
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Cons 288
Lab 244
Limps 51
Others 27
One clear thing that emerges, the used car salesman that is Nick Clegg failed to sell his beat up banger to the voting public - however, the one danger we now face will be his desperation to "form a coalition" with Bwown, if only for his swansong as a Z rated actor !
The Greens get their first ever MP ... in Brighton ... "Ooooo, get you ducks ...." where else ...!
Lab 244
Limps 51
Others 27
One clear thing that emerges, the used car salesman that is Nick Clegg failed to sell his beat up banger to the voting public - however, the one danger we now face will be his desperation to "form a coalition" with Bwown, if only for his swansong as a Z rated actor !
The Greens get their first ever MP ... in Brighton ... "Ooooo, get you ducks ...." where else ...!
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OFFICIAL : Hung Parliament in the UK.
Media now talking up the used car salesman as the "King Maker" with Brown returning as PM ....
Gawd f**kin' help us ..... where's me passport?!
Financial markets reacting badly to the news ... £ down and getting hit hard.
Media now talking up the used car salesman as the "King Maker" with Brown returning as PM ....
Gawd f**kin' help us ..... where's me passport?!
Financial markets reacting badly to the news ... £ down and getting hit hard.
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Where's all your bravado of the last few months merls .
Having said that though I think that a majority conservative government may have been better at this time, I worry about things getting done if previous coalitions are anything to go by.
Having said that though I think that a majority conservative government may have been better at this time, I worry about things getting done if previous coalitions are anything to go by.
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Honestly believed the Tories would have crept over the requisite 326 seats ... ...
But, now we face the farce of having two parties who have BOTH performed poorly at the polls, forming a f**king government !
Absolute f**king disaster IMO .... but ... there's hope yet.
With the market's adverse reaction to the situation and the heavy sell-off on the £ this morning, the new "government's" going to have to cut a swathe through public spending and barricade the borders .... failing which, I predict a return to the polls in August at which time hopefully the Tories return with a clear majority.
But, now we face the farce of having two parties who have BOTH performed poorly at the polls, forming a f**king government !
Absolute f**king disaster IMO .... but ... there's hope yet.
With the market's adverse reaction to the situation and the heavy sell-off on the £ this morning, the new "government's" going to have to cut a swathe through public spending and barricade the borders .... failing which, I predict a return to the polls in August at which time hopefully the Tories return with a clear majority.
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Allan D wrote:Thirsk & Malton which should be a safe pick-up for the Tories based on past experience won't vote for another three weeks due to the death of the UKIP candidate. Will GB wait until then before conceding?
I don't think it's safe to assume anything at the moment!
In any event, there has to be a government in place by 25/5 because, as I undrstand it, this is when the Queen's speech will have to be delivered.
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Will be interesting to see what clegg says - he could lose all face if he doesn't back the party with most seats and most votes.
When is the last seat declared today?
When is the last seat declared today?
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JKLever wrote:Will be interesting to see what clegg says - he could lose all face if he doesn't back the party with most seats and most votes.
When is the last seat declared today?
Since when do politicians worry about face? It's all about the power.
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Around 7 pm ish ... I think Leve... up in the Highlands somewhere.
Overall losses :
labour: - 90 seats
LimpDems: - 6 seats.
BOTH LOST seats in the polls - yet both together might well form a government, according to practically all the pundits.
A paradox ... or what!
Overall losses :
labour: - 90 seats
LimpDems: - 6 seats.
BOTH LOST seats in the polls - yet both together might well form a government, according to practically all the pundits.
A paradox ... or what!
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Well i've seen something predicted like 307 Tories 315 LibLab
Can they do a deal. Clegg will look stupid if Broon is still in no.10.
Can they do a deal. Clegg will look stupid if Broon is still in no.10.
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