Re: UK politics thread (II)

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:30

beamer wrote:
Basil wrote:
Bradman wrote:What and the backstop isn't a concept dreampt up in Brussels or Whitehall.
It's the only sane mechanism for managing a land border with the EU that avoids a return to check points which would be an open invitation to the IRA and associated splinter groups to resume hostilities.
Yeah, guess we should just ignore those morons who live on the other side of the world and have no understanding of the issues.

Yep, we have enough to deal without having to climb over mountains of stupidity.

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:32

beamer wrote:
Bradman wrote:
beamer wrote:
Bradman wrote:Citizens rights and peace. How dare they.
Was that supposed to be sarcastic? If so, you utter qunt.

Picked it. At least I'm not sounding reasonable.

More sarcasm btw. Goes along with your irrationality.
What’s f*cking irrational? Tell me where I’m being f*cking irrational you c*nt. I’m just stating the facts, dickhead. You’re making light of a dictatorial government playing games with people’s lives. Twat

Ok. Play nice beams. My view is the people have spoken and all Boris has done is shorten the parliament by about five days. Hardly dictatorial This isn't the Reichstag fire.

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:39

Proroguing Parliament goes way beyond Brexit. It is a means for the government to avoid the unpleasant truth that it has no majority of its own and even with the DUP' s support, it only has a majority of one.

It sets a calamitous precedent for governments to avoid parliamentary accountability.

Do not underestimate the degree of public anger about this. There were demonstrations yesterday in places where public protest is simply unheard of.

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:52

Well atm it's happening. At least you now have a clear cut choice (like the referendum choice was complicated), an election post brexit (again)or bending over and dropping trou.

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 18:58

Bradman wrote:Well atm it's happening. At least you now have a clear cut choice (like the referendum choice was complicated), an election post brexit (again)or bending over and dropping trou.

..........in your opinion.

I think proroguing parliament is possibly a huge mistake by Johnson (and he has loads of previous on that score). It's beginning to look as though the anti no deal faction in the H of C is finally getting its act together. The Speaker is certainly no fan of BJ and I expect that no amount of chicanery by the government will prevent time being made for sensible debate a d binding vote on the government.

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:09

Yes my opinion. Backed up by an act of parliament. Johnson is a dickhead, but no-one is covering themselves in glory here. Certainly not chicken little

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:15

I would wager that most pro-remainers hold Corbyn (I assume that's who you are responding to) in something close to contempt, and that's just Labour MP's. I think, however that other parties are coming to the realisation that without the Labour leadership on board, there is zero chance of deflecting this government from its chosen path.

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:29

Actually that was a shot at beamer and maybe you. I don't think the parliamentary labour party want Corbyn in no. 10 let alone anyone who else. Thus Boris wins and the roof will just need some repairs

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:34

Wow, Beamer was right, you really are a qunt.

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:41

Well I'm not the one causing a run on the pharmacies. Though personally I'd hit the bottle shops first

by Basil Sun 01 Sep 2019, 20:04

Bradman wrote:Well I'm not the one causing a run on the pharmacies. Though personally I'd hit the bottle shops first

Can you really blame people for stockpiling given the sheer incompetence of this government?

And if it is occurring, the people who will suffer are those who NEED the medication, not those who can simply afford to stockpile.

Still, that is part of this government's creed: reward people who are already well rewarded.

And no, I am not some raving socialist. I am an ex-Tory who is utterly ashamed of what the party I used to campaigned for has become. I actually think Maggie would despise this shower of shite.

by taipan Sun 01 Sep 2019, 20:14

Last time I saw stockpiling was before the first multiracial elections in SA in 1994. Some people are still eating bully beef by candlelight

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 20:25

Maggie certainly would if it would win her an election. Alarmism is great vote winner

by Bradman Sun 01 Sep 2019, 20:31

taipan wrote:Last time I saw stockpiling was before the first multiracial elections in SA in 1994. Some people are still eating bully beef by candlelight

Yeah prior to the that some black people were used to eating by candlelight. Sometimes accompanied by rubber hoses

by skully Mon 02 Sep 2019, 03:12

Jeremy Corbyn - what a qunt!!!

He had 12 months to secure a Good Deal Brexit by voting "yes" for May's plan. He didn't and she got the arse.

Now Johnson wants a No Deal Brexit and Corbyn is saying "over his dead body".

I repeat "what a qunt".

by Bradman Mon 02 Sep 2019, 03:32

Seems beams and bas, there are worse qunts in the world.

by skully Mon 02 Sep 2019, 04:22

Methinks, in years to come, the UK will regret/resent Brexit and then, by default, regret/resent the fact that T. May's Good Deal Brexit was bounced by the then Opposition (and some of the Govt).

by horace Mon 02 Sep 2019, 05:47

The English have made their own bed, let the xenophobes rot in it. Unfortunately a lot of good people will suffer. Corbyn has been a disgrace throughout. The Bozo is a nutter.

As for the nutter Tories who think the RI might succumb to pressure and leAve the EU, they can take a flying fark. The tosspots running England constitute a threat to their own people, let alone other countries.

by skully Mon 02 Sep 2019, 05:59

Real Ireland?

by Bradman Mon 02 Sep 2019, 06:16

Republic I think.

by taipan Mon 02 Sep 2019, 06:40

Corbyn has only one political agenda: to become PM.

To achieve this he will oppose anything the Tories offer whether for good of the country or not. He feels nothing for the people themselves.

by skully Mon 02 Sep 2019, 06:51

Bradman wrote:Republic I think.

Ah yes. Cheers Q.

by Bradman Mon 02 Sep 2019, 06:57

skully wrote:
Bradman wrote:Republic I think.

Ah yes. Cheers Q.

Though a couple of Irishmen I drink with would say real as would my mother's side of the family. All St George supporters too proving the world doesn't have to make sense.

by skully Mon 02 Sep 2019, 08:39

You're on fire in the past two days, Q. Cool

Still, go easy on Bas and beams, ay. They are genuinely concerned about the future of the UK under Boris' "no deal" Brexit, and I understand their worries.

by Bradman Mon 02 Sep 2019, 08:53

I was going easy on them. I didn't go postal like I once did. You probably remember.

Was once entitled to vote there and would have voted no, but this giving the bird to the public is giving me the shits. Plus Europe needs to grow up and manage this better.

And yes the UK has been horribly served by it's pollies.

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