Re: Horse Racing Thread

by Bradman Wed 21 Oct 2009, 07:45

G.Wood wrote:Don't you mean your grandfather's money will be on him?

I did earn a little bit of it myself, plus the cattle properties were Dads.. And it's purely a brain exercise for me. Any money I win gambling goes to charity or any candidate for federal politics who I'm convinced will look after the constituents and interests of rural Australia. Irregardless of their political leanings.

by taipan Wed 21 Oct 2009, 07:57

Bradman wrote: Any money I win gambling goes to charity

Please check your PM's for my banking details.

by horace Wed 21 Oct 2009, 08:00

vote for me then qm3...my policy platform for rural Australia is to shut down those parts that are not viable and make the rest pay full cost for infrastructure and services...a century of subsidies have gone to propping up the life styles of the rurals...and personally I prefer californian oranges

by JGK Wed 21 Oct 2009, 08:34

Bradman wrote:
G.Wood wrote:Don't you mean your grandfather's money will be on him?

I did earn a little bit of it myself, plus the cattle properties were Dads.. And it's purely a brain exercise for me. Any money I win gambling goes to charity or any candidate for federal politics who I'm convinced will look after the constituents and interests of rural Australia. Irregardless of their political leanings.

Is irregardless even a word?

by Bradman Wed 21 Oct 2009, 09:52

[quote="JGK"]

Bradman wrote:
G.Wood wrote:Don't you mean your grandfather's money will be on him?

I did earn a little bit of it myself, plus the cattle properties were Dads.. And it's purely a brain exercise for me. Any money I win gambling goes to charity or any candidate for federal politics who I'm convinced will look after the constituents and interests of rural Australia. Irregardless of their political leanings.

Is irregardless even a word?[/quote]

I think we've had this argument before. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. It is a word just not commonly accepted in general usage. I like it as it has more Oooomppff( which is probably not a word) than regardless.

by Bradman Wed 21 Oct 2009, 09:55

horace wrote:vote for me then qm3...my policy platform for rural Australia is to shut down those parts that are not viable and make the rest pay full cost for infrastructure and services...a century of subsidies have gone to propping up the life styles of the rurals...and personally I prefer californian oranges

Might just forgo the charities for a while and use the winnings to invest in kero companies. Either that or send the money south of the border to prop up your ailing economies. ooops. Forgot we already do that through our resource sector.

by Merlin Fri 23 Oct 2009, 08:47

Re The Melbourne Cup ...
With a max field of 24, does it mean that as the entries presently stand, Cumani's Basaltico will get a run (being as he is 24) ... because Luca was saying yesterday that the horse was doubtful to make the cut.

Roman Emperor does look good value @ 12's - as opposed to Viewed @ 7's, but I'm still going to throw good money after bad and stick a small wodge on Fiumicino at 60's ! Sucker ....

by Bradman Fri 23 Oct 2009, 10:13

The entries don't really stand as the final ballot is done on saturday evening of Derby Day. Though I'm a bit confused as every order of entry I've so far seen shows Basaltico at 33 but the date of that second declaration as Monday 22nd October. The 22nd was yesterday and it was Thursday.

And no, a horse can be balloted out even if there in the top 24 as there are still three or four(?) races to come which exempt a horse from a ballot if it wins.

by Merlin Fri 23 Oct 2009, 10:33

So the MC is, after all, a lottery pick and not done on handicap weights??

Unlike our Grand National (40 runners) ... where top weight 12 st down to bottom weight 10st ... and all those horses numbered 41 and over (out of 120 entries) miss the cut when the final draw takes place 24 hours before the race.

It seems bizarre that a handicap race like the MC is ultimately a lottery of horses .... regardless of their alloted handicap marks (weights)!

by Bradman Fri 23 Oct 2009, 11:26

I'm not exactly sure how it works. But the top weight has to be 57kg minimum. Then it goes on prizemoney (or form) over the last two years. The order of entry doesn't entirely reflect the weights and it's a quality handicap which means weights are taken into consideration but aren't the be all and end all. And the ballot isn't a lottery, it's for horses who haven't qualified under the conditions of the race and gives the committee a chance to elevate non-qualified horses (I'm pulling a lot this out of my arse) above other non-qualified horses if there are less than 24 qualified horses.

There are a number of international races that exempt horses from the ballot as well as the afore mentioned three or four spring carnival races.

At the moment the only exempt horse is Viewed.

by Merlin Fri 23 Oct 2009, 11:52

Aye ... makes sense that.
Cumani has said that he's got Basaltico in some Stakes race this weekend, which, if it wins, automatically lobs the horse into the MC as a confirmed runner (bar accidents/vets).... an entry which otherwise, Basaltico would have been balloted out of!

Wierd ...

by Bradman Sat 24 Oct 2009, 02:42

Cox Plate tips anyone?

by Nath Sat 24 Oct 2009, 03:30

Heart of Dreams, b/c I couldn't be arsed tipping the fave

by Bradman Sat 24 Oct 2009, 04:05

It probably will be the fave come jump time.

by Zat Sat 24 Oct 2009, 06:13

RD, if you're still looking for suggestions for the name of thirtysixred's foal, how about 'I don't like modis'?

by Bradman Sat 24 Oct 2009, 06:25

Boxed Zipping, Ready to Rock, Heart of Dreams, Bart's youngster and Whobegottya reluctantly. But I whimped. Barrier ten FFS!

by ten years after Sat 24 Oct 2009, 07:20

Melbourne is a pretty amazing city from the sporting perspective.

January - Opening of the Tennis Grand slam season
March - Opening of the Formula 1 Grand Prix season
September - month of football finals culminating in 100,000 at Grand Final
October - Horse racing carnival - largest in a single city in the world?
December - The largest regular annual cricket event in the world

At various times the Melbourne has had international claim to the largest ever crowds to watch AFL, Rugby League, Rugby Union, Cricket, Tennis and Baseball.

by Bradman Sat 24 Oct 2009, 07:40

Have you been to Melbourne? Apart from watching underworld killings the reason Melburnians go to sporting events is there is SFA to do otherwise.

by Zat Sun 25 Oct 2009, 01:34

And qmy comes in with the standard non-Melbourne resident answer.

by G.Wood Mon 26 Oct 2009, 22:56

embee wrote:A couple of my mates own this horse and they are very excited about it .....

Buggles Takes First Step

Classy Jeune filly Snug Buggles has taken the first step to a possible date in the VRC Oaks at Flemington in November.

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Crikey, they're ambitious. Still paid up for in the Oaks I see.

by bodyline Mon 26 Oct 2009, 23:17

G.Wood wrote:
embee wrote:A couple of my mates own this horse and they are very excited about it .....

Buggles Takes First Step

Classy Jeune filly Snug Buggles has taken the first step to a possible date in the VRC Oaks at Flemington in November.

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Crikey, they're ambitious. Still paid up for in the Oaks I see.

That's so they can use the old

"Had a shot at the Oaks a few years ago - she was a certainty before she became lame the day before."

Show me an owner who isn't living in dreamland.

by G.Wood Mon 26 Oct 2009, 23:37

I guess it is the point of owning a racehorse

by bodyline Tue 27 Oct 2009, 00:02

G.Wood wrote:I guess it is the point of owning a racehorse

I always thought the point of owning a racehorse was to keep trainers of the dole.

by G.Wood Tue 27 Oct 2009, 00:12

bodyline wrote:
G.Wood wrote:I guess it is the point of owning a racehorse

I always thought the point of owning a racehorse was to keep trainers of the dole.

No, kickbacks from colourful racing identities do that

by horace Tue 27 Oct 2009, 00:29

and in critical care units in hospital when they fail to deliver

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