Provocative behaviour

Seem taips has come and gone. Is this destined to become the Great November Banning Mystery? Well at least 3 people know, Fromage (who I'm guessing will remain stum, MB, who received the email, and the banned poster, who sent MB the email. Or MB is a complete shit-stirrer.

PeterCS wrote:
This is not implying anything against you, Danny, just that on balance, personally I prefer real people over very abstract principles.

It's not particularly an abstract principle though, is it? It's basically this: if someone said something to you in real life, you don't clamour, looking around for a moderator to sort your f*cking shit out. The good thing about this place is that, until now, there was no 'naughty naughty - I'm going to tell you off' horse shit. It actually felt that, shit, we were like, what're those older humans called again? Yeah that's it ADULTS.

Ah but Dan, we have THE HOSTS overlooking the Mods, so it's an incorrect analogy. All Forums have standards, however loose. A Forum is not like real life in that regard. You can't say anything you like, otherwise this word - fog, wouldn't keep appearing.

The real world has no mods and Gods, forums do.

taipan wrote:

furriner wrote:Heh, next thing you know Ngam may get a time out next for that, way we're going. And, to be honest, that daughter bit surprised, if not shocked, me as well.

Oh FFS, the daughter bit was totally innocuous. BM's view was that it was getting it the way of the discussion and cleared it out. If Skully said he was mowing the law and the comment was "fark the lawn, lets get back on topic" would you guys be having this discussion.

Read the comment in context.

My last comment on this particular issue: the context to me is that one can say "fark your lawn" without people sitting up and taking notice in most contexts, but there are few in which someone says "fark your daughter" and not expect people to go WTF, regardless of intent.

Aye furry, it threw me initially, but when reread, the context is fine.

skully wrote:Ah but Dan, we have THE HOSTS overlooking the Mods, so it's an incorrect analogy. All Forums have standards, however loose. A Forum is not like real life in that regard. You can't say anything you like, otherwise this word - fog, wouldn't keep appearing.

The real world has no mods and Gods, forums do.

The hosts only intervene if a report is amde. The fog comment was reported directly to them.

From this forum, or another?

skully wrote:Ah but Dan, we have THE HOSTS overlooking the Mods, so it's an incorrect analogy. All Forums have standards, however loose. A Forum is not like real life in that regard. You can't say anything you like, otherwise this word - fog, wouldn't keep appearing.

The real world has no mods and Gods, forums do.

Come off it. It's all well and good saying that all forums have standards, but the fact of the matter is you moderate yourself - it's simple. If you're going to be incessant in the most continuous of wind-ups, then the wind-up works I think it's incredibly low to then try to bring THE HOSTS into it - especially when Dello has stated their heavy handed policy in the past. It is shit. It is the absolute pits.

skully wrote:From this forum, or another?

TAC reported it directly to the owners. Dello crapped all over him at the time.

So you are again inferring that someone has tried to bring the hosts into this? I just don't see it that way.

skully wrote:So you are again inferring that someone has tried to bring the hosts into this? I just don't see it that way.

i do

taipan wrote:

skully wrote:From this forum, or another?

TAC reported it directly to the owners. Dello crapped all over him at the time.

I see. Wasn't aware of tac going directly to the Hosts. I remember Dello crapping on him but I thought it was because tac reported the homo abuse by hitting the "report this post" button, which Dello was then bound to deal with under the Forum rules.

Uhhhh, any 'report this post' goes directly to the hosts as well as the moderators.

Brass Monkey wrote:Uhhhh, any 'report this post' goes directly to the hosts as well as the moderators.

*shakes head sadly*

So did you get temporarily banned or not, for the 3rd time?

Hey Dan, you have mail

He's probably been 'asked' not to mention it - Gestapo-style.

This report caper can't be too serious. I had Vikas and Bucky reporting me left right and centre, and all that happened was we all got a good laugh after Dello revealed their reports to us all.

Brass Monkey wrote:He's probably been 'asked' not to mention it - Gestapo-style.

Was beginning to suspect that. Thanks.

Brass Monkey wrote:

PeterCS wrote:
This is not implying anything against you, Danny, just that on balance, personally I prefer real people over very abstract principles.

It's not particularly an abstract principle though, is it? It's basically this: if someone said something to you in real life, you don't clamour, looking around for a moderator to sort your f*cking shit out. The good thing about this place is that, until now, there was no 'naughty naughty - I'm going to tell you off' horse shit. It actually felt that, shit, we were like, what're those older humans called again? Yeah that's it ADULTS.

I was talking about principles in principle.


There are a "host" of things that could be said here.

I fully understand what you mean - I characterised your main point of loathing above (snitching, ratting...), fairly accurately it seems in view of what you have added.

I don't think privately reporting behind backs solves the main problems, and wouldn't do it myself. Even (for example) when someone was claiming very different things in public from what that person msg.ed me in private, I was disgusted enough by the hypocrisy (briefly) to publish that difference in the thread. I'd rather do that and face the consequences, than use snideness on the one hand, and subterfuge on the other.

The main problems (causing further problems) no doubt include a fairly crying-out shortage of self-esteem which leads people to spend their time trying doggedly to do down, belittle, undermine, troll and verbally acid-attack others (so as to feel better about themselves? - it would seem so) on a trivial thing like an internet forum, and do so to a ridiculous degree.

In a way that hardly seems - to use your word - adult.

It's possible to be aggressive and fruity/foul-mouthed in fun, even as part of an ongoing public "shtick", an "adult" Brian Rix thing, and I think most people can recognise good humour as such.

Most people can also recognise malice, ill-will, and may well interpret it as an ill-directed, but far worse, mean-spirited attempt to deal with other frustrations we all have in life.

But you don't solve such underlying problems on an internet forum - in public either, I would think.


Personally, I think places like this are a sort of playground, though hopefully for adults as well, most of the time.

But then, like school playgrounds, .............

furriner wrote:^^ What is going on?

buckSH wrote:Gentlemen ..

What is going on?

...

business ass usual
usual ass business ..

Surely JGK's misuse of his gift is more provocative than anything that taipan has done

I have PMed the french qunt and explained he farqued up

He said he wont do it again if the forum qunts dont wake up wearing cranky pants and immediately launch into calling the other forum qunts qunts

Y-y-yes F-f-fromage.


G-g-got y-y-you.

So was it a case of some qunt reporting?