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Post by JGK Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:24

BTW - WTF is happening to this hearing?

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Post by Invader Zim Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:25

White wash I assume.
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Post by tac Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:25

I think Procter is waiting for Harby to finish writing 100 lines.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:26

tac wrote:
Henry wrote:'Jap' is meant to be an offensive term for the Japanese, but I have several Japanese friends and they don't mind it at all. In fact they use it a lot themselves when talking in English.

A lot of Japanese happily refer to themselves as yellow monkeys . . . they see it as showing them as clever


they are a pretty much monolithical society, and are extremely proud of who they are.

They consider themselves to be the alpha dogs of the Far Eastern pack. So their tolerance to all kinds of stuff is far higher I suppose.
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Post by JGK Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:29

tac wrote:I think Procter is waiting for Harby to finish writing 100 lines.


Or maybe having a go at Token for turning up half-cut.

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Post by Henry Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:33

They're all getting pissed and Bhajji is out searching for an off-license. Procter is dressed as a woman and dirty dancing with Steve Bucknor, Ponting is freaking out and head butting a wall, and Symonds is asking an SCG cleaner boy if he knows anyone who sells crack.
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Post by tac Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:34

Henry wrote:They're all getting pissed and Bhajji is out searching for an off-license. Procter is dressed as a woman and dirty dancing with Steve Bucknor, Ponting is freaking out and head butting a wall, and Symonds is asking an SCG cleaner boy if he knows anyone who sells crack.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:42

Reports are that the hearing is still not over. Four and a half hours and still going on. 12:30 a.m. in Sydney, a few Australian reporters and a rather number of Indian media are waiting outside SCG.

And both the sides are fighting over each and every minor argument on the field. So it now seems all gloves are off.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:44

Would have thought the hearing might have been over by now if there was no evidence that Harbajhan had said anything with racist connotations ... no case to answer.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:47

It started at 8:00 P.M. and is still going on. It's 12:30 A. M. now in Sydney.

A sook fest to beat all sook fests perhaps.
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Post by Henry Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:49

I guess all of the shit from the match is now hitting the fan. Who would be in the meeting? Obiously Bhajji, Symonds, Procter, Ponting. Who else....I guess Kumble is there, and the Indian manager. The 2 umpires as well. Maybe even a foxy young lass with a very short skirt serving drinks and biscuits every now and then.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:50

Henry wrote: Maybe even a foxy young lass with a very short skirt serving drinks and biscuits every now and then.

Well, that would improve the health and temper of all others present.

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:52

Henry wrote:The 2 umpires as well. Maybe even a foxy young lass with a very short skirt serving drinks and biscuits every now and then.

Ex-escort for Bucknor during his stay in Sydney and Perth; sponsored by Malcolm Speed and now recruited into ICC firefighting squad.
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Post by please don't yell Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:18

"I don't think that word (monkey) was used on the ground, but it is not a derogatory word in India," said Indian team manager Chetan Chauhan last week in outlining India's case in defence of Harbhajan

Indians still with their heads up their you know what's.

I don't mind them saying harbi didn't call him a monkey but to come out with this sort of crap is childish

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:22

Indians counter with abuse claim against Hogg
Alex Brown and Chloe Saltau, Sydney
January 7, 2008

INDIA has lodged a counter-claim of abuse against the Australians during Harbhajan Singh's racial discrimination hearing.

The Indians alleged that Brad Hogg referred to an Indian player as a "bastard", which is considered to be a highly offensive term in India. The charge appeared to be an attempt to pick apart Australia's argument that "monkey" was a racially charged word; a stance the Indians have challenged.

"I don't think that word (monkey) was used on the ground, but it is not a derogatory word in India," said Indian team manager Chetan Chauhan last week in outlining India's case in defence of Harbhajan.

The hearing into Hogg's conduct will be held separately from Harbhajan's case, and possibly as early as today. Indian captain Anil Kumble yesterday criticised the behaviour of the Australian players, although the counter-charge against Hogg is believed to have taken the Australian camp by surprise.

Harbhajan's hearing, meanwhile, carried into the early hours of this morning in the SCG Members' Pavilion, with players from both sides lining up to testify. Matthew Hayden, Michael Clarke, Adam Gilchrist, Ricky Ponting and Andrew Symonds told match referee Mike Procter last night that Harbhajan called Symonds a "monkey" during the 116th over of India's first innings.

Ponting is also understood to have told Procter that Harbhajan made an identical taunt towards Symonds during a one-day match at Mumbai's Wankhede Stadium in October. A number of spectators were pictured in monkey poses during that game, won by India, and were subsequently arrested. The Australians made no formal complaint of Harbhajan's actions at the time.

Early today, India's players were still testifying before Procter.

Harbhajan's batting partner at the time of the confrontation, Sachin Tendulkar, was the star witness for the Indians, while Kumble, Chauhan and media manager Dr M. K. Shridhar all appeared in support of the spinner.

The Indian case was helped by the fact that neither Steve Bucknor nor Mark Benson — the on-field umpires during the Sydney Test — heard Harbhajan goad Symonds. Furthermore, Channel Nine technicians were unable to unearth any video or audio evidence to support Australia's complaint.

Harbhajan was charged with breaching section 3.3, pertaining to the use of "language or gestures that offends, insults, humiliates, intimidates, threatens, disparages or vilifies another person on the basis of that persons race, religion, gender, colour, descent, or national or ethic origin".

Indian board chairman Sharad Pawar has tried to avoid a damaging political feud with Australia over Harbhajan's alleged taunt.

Speaking from Mumbai last night, Pawar called for calm and said he was determined to preserve strong ties between the nations.

"There is an extremely good relationship between the countries. There has been a conflict on the field and an issue has been reported by some players, but I don't want to react," Pawar said. "It is important it should not spoil the relationship between the countries or the teams. That is not our desire."

Australian captain Ricky Ponting received strong endorsement from the Australian Cricketers Association for making a formal complaint about Harbhajan.

ACA chief executive Paul Marsh said he was "staggered" that Ponting had been criticised for his action. "He should be applauded, not criticised, for having the courage to take a stance against racism," Marsh said.
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Post by bliksem Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:36

JGK wrote:"Roy" is short for Leroy from Leroy Loggins - an American born negro basketballer who played basketball for Brisbane in the 80s.

That's what I found as well, although what the two have in common is beyond me, other than the fact they're both black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Symonds
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Post by please don't yell Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:40

We might not have the true answer, i have read 3-4 other places that his dad gave him the nickname.

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Post by please don't yell Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:40

It's possible that neither theory is correct.

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Post by mynah Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:45

JGK wrote:"Roy" is short for Leroy from Leroy Loggins - an American born negro basketballer who played basketball for Brisbane in the 80s.

And a monkey is just another primate, like Symmo and the rest of us...
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Post by Henry Nolonga Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:54

mynah wrote:
JGK wrote:"Roy" is short for Leroy from Leroy Loggins - an American born negro basketballer who played basketball for Brisbane in the 80s.

And a monkey is just another primate, like Symmo and the rest of us...

Maybe he doesn't believe in evolution and is a creationist?
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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:51

Reports in Indian media that Harbhajan to be banned for 3 matches. ICC to make announcement later tonight.
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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:53

Also on parallel there are reports and speculations coming out that if Harbhajan is banned for 3 matches then the Indian team might forfeit the rest of the series.
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Post by doremi Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:57

No way will they forfeit it, but they will appeal it. And frankly if Bhajji is banned just on the word of the Australian players over Sachin and Kumble then it's a farce.
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Post by please don't yell Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:57

Well that would be ridiculous, they would have to banned from the ICC test table if they did that.

It would defeat the purpose of having a disciplinary committee(with appeal processes in place) if the offending team can just have a whinge and take the ball home if they don't get cleared.

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Post by Henry Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:59

Well that would be ridiculous, they would have to banned from the ICC test table if they did that.

LOL. As if the ICC would ban 70% of their income.
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